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Republicans were quick to react to the indictment¹ of former President Trump²

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NPR's Asma Khalid speaks to conservative columnist⁴ Jonah Goldberg about how Republicans are reacting to the indictment of former President Donald Trump in the classified documents case.

ASMA KHALID, HOST:

The big news this morning is that Donald Trump is being indicted⁵ on federal charges related to the trove⁶ of classified documents taken from the White House to his Florida estate. A number of Republicans have been quick to react to the indictment of the former president. House Speaker Kevin McCarthy jumped to his defense⁷, calling it a, quote, "grave injustice⁸." But some key Republicans, like Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, have been noticeably silent thus far. So the key question here is how will the broader GOP deal with the fact that its 2024 front-runner is facing federal charges? To help us unpack⁹ that question, we are joined now by conservative columnist Jonah Goldberg.

Good morning.

JONAH GOLDBERG: Good morning.

KHALID: So let's start with your own reaction to the indictment.

GOLDBERG: Surprised, but not shocked.

KHALID: OK.

GOLDBERG: I mean, the timing¹⁰ was such as it was, and you kind of knew that something was coming. But it sounds like it's a pretty serious set of indictments¹¹. But we don't know exactly what's in them yet.

KHALID: OK. So Trump is now the first former president in U.S. history to face federal charges. He is also, though, running for reelection. So what does this all mean for that election campaign?

GOLDBERG: Well, it means everything's going to be uglier and stupider for a little while. You already saw that. You know, sort of the canary in the coal mine of American political dysfunction is, of course, Twitter. And so you saw that last night with an enormous number of people getting way ahead of the facts, you know, as Kevin McCarthy did. And, you know, the only two Republican presidential candidates to actually take a different tack¹², other than this is a political, you know, witch hunt and all that nonsense, were Chris Christie and former Arkansas Governor Asa Hutchinson, which I think is at minimum a good sign - right? - I mean, 'cause what you need is you need some oxygen out there to actually have an argument. And if the entire GOP rallies around this idea that this is a political prosecution¹³ against the - his leading - Biden's leading political opponent, it leaves no room for any Republican to have to defend their position, to have an argument, to deal with uncomfortable facts in internal conversations on the right. And so I'm all in favor of anything that smashes up that sort of intellectual or ideological¹⁴ monopoly.

KHALID: Jonah, I want to ask you a little bit more about what the indictment means for Trump's Republican primary challengers, you know, specifically Florida Governor Ron DeSantis. He seemed to be Trump's biggest rival for the GOP presidential nomination¹⁵. He put out a tweet decrying¹⁶ what he called the, quote, "weaponization of federal law enforcement."

GOLDBERG: Yeah. So I think it's very interesting. We have three different major Republican candidates running who are critical of Trump. One is Chris Christie, who's going all in. Trump the man, Trump the legend, everything about Trump, Trump's family - all is fair game for Chris Christie. Mike Pence says that the administration that he worked in - he just won't call it the Trump administration...

KHALID: Though he...

GOLDBERG: ...Was super...

KHALID: ...Was vice¹⁷ president.

GOLDBERG: ...Terrific...

KHALID: Yeah.

GOLDBERG: ...Awesome¹⁸. Right - which he was vice president of. His administration was great, but January 6 was very, very bad. That's Mike Pence's position. And Ron DeSantis is going after the administration, but not the man. He's saying that the - that Trump's record fell short on what he promised. And DeSantis can deliver the things that Trump only promised - a wall, immigration stuff, all that kind of thing.

And so the different strategies have to do with the fact that they're going after different voters. DeSantis wants to get about half of the coalition¹⁹ that is in favor of - that is - likes Trump - is not the die-hards. They're the ones who are like, they rally to him when the press picks on him. They rally to him, you know, after the Mar-a-Lago search. But they're not that hardcore, shoot-him-on-Fifth-Avenue base. And that's the question, is, how many of those voters can these guys pick off during a rally-around-Trump moment?

KHALID: Do you have any sense real quick in about just 10 seconds or so if, you know, any of this will make a difference thus far, legal-troubles-wise?

GOLDBERG: I think long term it makes a difference, but it really depends on what the actual facts and allegations are in the indictments.

KHALID: All right. That's conservative columnist Jonah Goldberg. He's editor in chief of The Dispatch.

Thanks so much.

GOLDBERG: Great to be here.

1 indictment   

n.起诉；诉状

参考例句：

• He handed up the indictment to the supreme court.他把起诉书送交最高法院。
• They issued an indictment against them.他们起诉了他们。

2 trump   

n.王牌，法宝；v.打出王牌，吹喇叭

参考例句：

• He was never able to trump up the courage to have a showdown.他始终鼓不起勇气摊牌。
• The coach saved his star player for a trump card.教练保留他的明星选手，作为他的王牌。

3 transcript   

n.抄本，誊本，副本，肄业证书

参考例句：

• A transcript of the tapes was presented as evidence in court.一份录音带的文字本作为证据被呈交法庭。
• They wouldn't let me have a transcript of the interview.他们拒绝给我一份采访的文字整理稿。

4 columnist   

n.专栏作家

参考例句：

• The host was interviewing a local columnist.节目主持人正在同一位当地的专栏作家交谈。
• She's a columnist for USA Today.她是《今日美国报》的专栏作家。

5 indicted   

控告，起诉( indict的过去式和过去分词 )

参考例句：

• The senator was indicted for murder. 那位参议员被控犯谋杀罪。
• He was indicted by a grand jury on two counts of murder. 他被大陪审团以两项谋杀罪名起诉。

6 trove   

n.被发现的东西，收藏的东西

参考例句：

• He assembled a rich trove of Chinese porcelain.他收集了一批中国瓷器。
• The gallery is a treasure trove of medieval art.这个画廊是中世纪艺术的宝库。

7 defense   

n.防御，保卫；[pl.]防务工事；辩护，答辩

参考例句：

• The accused has the right to defense.被告人有权获得辩护。
• The war has impacted the area with military and defense workers.战争使那个地区挤满了军队和防御工程人员。

8 injustice   

n.非正义，不公正，不公平，侵犯（别人的）权利

参考例句：

• They complained of injustice in the way they had been treated.他们抱怨受到不公平的对待。
• All his life he has been struggling against injustice.他一生都在与不公正现象作斗争。

9 unpack   

vt.打开包裹（或行李），卸货

参考例句：

• I must unpack before dinner.我得在饭前把行李打开。
• She said she would unpack the items later.她说以后再把箱子里的东西拿出来。

10 timing   

n.时间安排，时间选择

参考例句：

• The timing of the meeting is not convenient.会议的时间安排不合适。
• The timing of our statement is very opportune.我们发表声明选择的时机很恰当。

11 indictments   

n.（制度、社会等的）衰败迹象( indictment的名词复数 )；刑事起诉书；公诉书；控告

参考例句：

• A New York jury brought criminal indictments against the founder of the organization. 纽约的一个陪审团对这个组织的创始人提起了多项刑事诉讼。 来自《简明英汉词典》
• These two indictments are self-evident and require no elaboration. 这两条意义自明，无须多说。 来自互联网

12 tack   

n.大头钉；假缝，粗缝

参考例句：

• He is hammering a tack into the wall to hang a picture.他正往墙上钉一枚平头钉用来挂画。
• We are going to tack the map on the wall.我们打算把这张地图钉在墙上。

13 prosecution   

n.起诉，告发，检举，执行，经营

参考例句：

• The Smiths brought a prosecution against the organizers.史密斯家对组织者们提出起诉。
• He attempts to rebut the assertion made by the prosecution witness.他试图反驳原告方证人所作的断言。

14 ideological   

a.意识形态的

参考例句：

• He always tries to link his study with his ideological problems. 他总是把学习和自己的思想问题联系起来。
• He helped me enormously with advice on how to do ideological work. 他告诉我怎样做思想工作，对我有很大帮助。

15 nomination   

n.提名，任命，提名权

参考例句：

• John is favourite to get the nomination for club president.约翰最有希望被提名为俱乐部主席。
• Few people pronounced for his nomination.很少人表示赞成他的提名。

16 decrying   

v.公开反对，谴责( decry的现在分词 )

参考例句：

• Soon Chinese Internet users, including government agencies, were decrying the' poisonous panda. 不久，中国网民以及政府机构纷纷谴责“影响极坏的熊猫烧香”。 来自互联网
• Democratic leaders are decrying President Bush's plan to indefinitely halt troop withdrawals from Iraq after July. 民主党领导公开谴责布什总统七月后无限停止从伊拉克撤兵的举动。 来自互联网

17 vice   

n.坏事；恶习；[pl.]台钳，老虎钳；adj.副的

参考例句：

• He guarded himself against vice.他避免染上坏习惯。
• They are sunk in the depth of vice.他们堕入了罪恶的深渊。

18 awesome   

adj.令人惊叹的，难得吓人的，很好的

参考例句：

• The church in Ireland has always exercised an awesome power.爱尔兰的教堂一直掌握着令人敬畏的权力。
• That new white convertible is totally awesome.那辆新的白色折篷汽车简直棒极了.

19 coalition   

n.结合体，同盟，结合，联合

参考例句：

• The several parties formed a coalition.这几个政党组成了政治联盟。
• Coalition forces take great care to avoid civilian casualties.联盟军队竭尽全力避免造成平民伤亡。