访谈录 2008-02-06&02-08, 采访李小龙-3

Bruce Lee: …if you have another to the extreme, you'll become, all of a sudden, a mechanical man, no longer a human being. So (you) it is a successful combination of both, so therefore, it is not only, I mean, so therefore, it's not pure naturalness, or unnaturalness². The ideal is unnatural¹ naturalness, or natural unnaturalness.

Pierre Berton: yin yang, eh?

Bruce Lee: right man, that's it.

Pierre Berton: uh, one of your students, James Coburn, played in a movie called Our Man Flint, in which he used karate³. Was that what he learned from you?

Bruce Lee: Um, he learned it after the film. Not...

Pierre Berton: he went the, after he played in Our Man Flint.

Bruce Lee: Right, right. You see, actually, I do not teach, you know, karate, because I do not believe in styles anymore. I mean I do not believe that there is such thing as, like,  Chinese way of fighting or the Japanese way of fighting, or whatever way of fighting, because unless human being have three arms and four legs, we will have a different form of fighting. But, basically, we have only two hands and two feet. So styles tends to, uh, uh, uh, not only separate man, you know, because they have their own doctrines⁵ and then the doctrine⁴ became the gospel truth you know, that you cannot change, you know, and, but if you do not have styles, if you just say, "well, here I am, you know, as a human being, how can I express myself totally and completely?" now, that way, you won't create a style because style is a crystallization, you know, I mean, that way is a process of continuing growth.

Pierre Berton: You talk about Chinese boxing....how does it defer⁶, from, say, our kind of boxing?

Bruce Lee: well, first we use the feet.

Pierre Berton: uh-huh, that's a start.

Bruce Lee: and then we use the elbow, and…

Pierre Berton: you use the thumb too.

Bruce Lee: you name it man, we use it!

Pierre Berton: you use it all?

Bruce Lee: you have to, you see, because I mean, that is the expression of the human body. I mean, the, everything, I mean, you know, not just the hand! And when you are talking about combat, well, I mean, if, if it is a sport now, now you talk about something else, you have regulations, you have rules, but when you're talking about fighting as it is…

Pierre Berton: thorough, a real fighting.

Bruce Lee: with no rules, well then, baby, you'd better train every part of your body! And when you do punch, now I'm leaning forward a little bit hoping not to hurt any camera angle, I mean you gotta put the whole hit into it, and snap it! And get all your energy in there and make this into a weapon.

Pierre Berton: I don't want to tangle⁷ with you on any dark night, I'll tell you that right now! You came up to me pretty fast there! What…

 

1 unnatural   

adj.不自然的；反常的

参考例句：

• Did her behaviour seem unnatural in any way?她有任何反常表现吗？
• She has an unnatural smile on her face.她脸上挂着做作的微笑。

2 unnaturalness   

参考例句：

• The vale was wrapped in a dim atomosphere of unnaturalness. 峡谷沉浸在一种不自然的朦胧气氛里。 来自辞典例句

3 karate   

n.空手道(日本的一种徒手武术)

参考例句：

• Alice's boyfriend knew a little karate.艾丽斯的男朋友懂一点儿空手道。
• The black belt is the highest level in karate.黑腰带级是空手道的最高级别。

4 doctrine   

n.教义；主义；学说

参考例句：

• He was impelled to proclaim his doctrine.他不得不宣扬他的教义。
• The council met to consider changes to doctrine.宗教议会开会考虑更改教义。

5 doctrines   

n.教条( doctrine的名词复数 )；教义；学说；（政府政策的）正式声明

参考例句：

• To modern eyes, such doctrines appear harsh, even cruel. 从现代的角度看，这样的教义显得苛刻，甚至残酷。 来自《简明英汉词典》
• His doctrines have seduced many into error. 他的学说把许多人诱入歧途。 来自《现代汉英综合大词典》

6 defer   

vt.推迟，拖延；vi.(to)遵从，听从，服从

参考例句：

• We wish to defer our decision until next week.我们希望推迟到下星期再作出决定。
• We will defer to whatever the committee decides.我们遵从委员会作出的任何决定。

7 tangle   

n.纠缠；缠结；混乱；v.(使)缠绕；变乱

参考例句：

• I shouldn't tangle with Peter.He is bigger than me.我不应该与彼特吵架。他的块头比我大。
• If I were you, I wouldn't tangle with them.我要是你，我就不跟他们争吵。