访谈录 Interview 2007-09-03&09-05, 07全球最具影响力的100位女性

Ah, thank you. This morning on today’s working woman, are you on the list? Forbes magazine has the latest annual power list of the most successful and influential¹ women in the world. And here to tell us about it is Elizabeth MacDonald, senior editor at Forbes magazine.

Good morning, Elizabeth, Good morning. fourth issue ...lapse², the fourth and, and this year ,you got a lot of women from all over the world on the list. (that’s right, we have...) it seems very global.

Yeah.We have more international women than ever before. And we have a surprising number of women from the Middle East which we’ll talk about in a minute.

Yeah, we’ll talk about that in just a minute, but let’s take a look at , I mean first of all, how do you even decide who gets to be on this list? (You know, it's a...it's...) So in the ranking, I mean you have Irene Rosenfeld, is the chairman of the Kraft Foods came in at No 9, (Right!) she is more powerful than the Queen of England who came in at 23, so what goes into it?

What we did was we set up a very complicated computer algorithm, we started crunching³ a lot of data putting in a lot of statistics. Because we really wanted to see the influence that women around the world are wielding⁵. And so what we are looking at are women who are at the top or near, the top of companies, governments and non-profits around the world.

And a lot of women are running companies on this list as you mentioned. (That's right) let’s take a look (at) first starting off at NO 5, speaking of that, Indra Nooyi(That’s right ),the chief executive of PepsiCo US.

That’s right, Indra Nooyi, just added the chairman , the title of chairman to her resume of the food and beverage⁶ giant, and she wields⁷ a lot of clout⁸ around the globe.

Alright, and No 4, Condoleezza Rice ,Secretary of State

Condoleezza Rice, the first African-American woman to be US Secretary of State , she dropped a little bit in the rankings as her bosses' poll ratings have plummeted⁹ to one, (interesting) one pundit¹⁰ said it was around the freezing level,so,yeah, but she still ranks very high.

Okay, No 3 Ho Ching is the chief executive of Temasek Holdings in Singapore. (That’s right.)So there we are seeing that global presence.

And I mean Ho Ching happens to be very mediashy, she is also the First Lady of Singapore, Temasek holdings is a powerful investment holding company for the country of Singapore.

And No 2 on the list Wu Yi, the Vice¹¹ Premier¹² of China

Wu Yi, yes, and she stared down Henry Paulson recently, he was Treasury¹³ Secretary, Henry Paulson at global economic talks, for example, in revaluing in the Yuan, she didn’t yield a bit.

Alright, and No1 on the list again, second year in a row. Angela Merkel, the Chancellor¹⁴ of Germany.

Again, that's right. Angela Merkel. she is the first female Chancellor of Germany since Germany became a nation-state in 1871. Now she’s becoming more comfortable with wielding her clout. Two back-to-back global summits. She set the agenda.

49 women on the list are from the United States. Oprah comes in at No 21, Nancy Pelosi at No 26, Laura Bush at No 60. And take a look at this, our own Meredith Vieira at No 55, that’s right. You go girl, congratulations Meredith. She’s the top ranking journalist.

I'd like to hear more about her. That’s right, that’s right, and we wanna hear more about how Meredith is going to be using her powers this year.

Exactly, you know, we wield⁴ some power around here.(Right. )One notable change, though, this year, I thought was interesting. Hillary Clinton actually fell back a little bit on the list. She came in, she fell from No 18 last year to No 25. This is a year she's announcing she’s running for president.(That’s right.)How do you explain that?

The way to explain that is we have more women than ever before entering the list, and getting into the top 20. So we had more women uh, coming into the top 20 that effectively pushed Hillary back in the rankings.

And one of the interesting developments, I think, here the trends you were saying, a lot more women from the Middle east, as you mentioned, represent it.

That's absolutely right, that's right. we've got ten women from the middle East. And you know, we talk, there is a lot of talk about the glass ceiling and certainly the glass ceiling is made of concrete in certain regions in the world. But the power these women are wielding is sort of making that a quickly acquainted notion. A lot of women in the Middle East run conglomerates¹⁵, they run banking¹⁶ companies. They run energy companies. And you know, they are running, for example, Lubna Al Qasimi, Minister of the Economy, (United Arab Emirates)that's right, United Arab Emirates(we interviewed her when we were in Dubai, so yes). She is an interesting woman; she’s demanding more stock market reforms, along western style reforms, for example, corporate¹⁷ governance and transparency.

Well, it’s great to see that, that in that part of the world they are being represented, thank you so much.

Sure! Thank you.

And the September 17th issue of Forbes hits news stands today. Elizabeth MacDonald, thank you again!

1 influential   

adj.有影响的，有权势的

参考例句：

• He always tries to get in with the most influential people.他总是试图巴结最有影响的人物。
• He is a very influential man in the government.他在政府中是个很有影响的人物。

2 lapse   

n.过失，流逝，失效，抛弃信仰，间隔；vi.堕落，停止，失效，流逝；vt.使失效

参考例句：

• The incident was being seen as a serious security lapse.这一事故被看作是一次严重的安全疏忽。
• I had a lapse of memory.我记错了。

3 crunching   

v.嘎吱嘎吱地咬嚼( crunch的现在分词 )；嘎吱作响；（快速大量地）处理信息；数字捣弄

参考例句：

• The horses were crunching their straw at their manger. 这些马在嘎吱嘎吱地吃槽里的草。 来自《简明英汉词典》
• The dog was crunching a bone. 狗正嘎吱嘎吱地嚼骨头。 来自《简明英汉词典》

4 wield   

vt.行使，运用，支配；挥，使用(武器等)

参考例句：

• They wield enormous political power.他们行使巨大的政治权力。
• People may wield the power in a democracy.在民主国家里，人民可以行使权力。

5 wielding   

手持着使用（武器、工具等）( wield的现在分词 )； 具有； 运用（权力）； 施加（影响）

参考例句：

• The rebels were wielding sticks of dynamite. 叛乱分子舞动着棒状炸药。
• He is wielding a knife. 他在挥舞着一把刀。

6 beverage   

n.(水，酒等之外的)饮料

参考例句：

• The beverage is often colored with caramel.这种饮料常用焦糖染色。
• Beer is a beverage of the remotest time.啤酒是一种最古老的饮料。

7 wields   

手持着使用（武器、工具等）( wield的第三人称单数 )； 具有； 运用（权力）； 施加（影响）

参考例句：

• She wields enormous power within the party. 她操纵着党内大权。
• He remains chairman, but wields little power at the company. 他还是主席，但在公司没有什么实权了。

8 clout   

n.用手猛击；权力，影响力

参考例句：

• The queen may have privilege but she has no real political clout.女王有特权，但无真正的政治影响力。
• He gave the little boy a clout on the head.他在那小男孩的头部打了一下。

9 plummeted   

v.垂直落下，骤然跌落( plummet的过去式和过去分词 )

参考例句：

• Share prices plummeted to an all-time low. 股票价格暴跌到历史最低点。
• A plane plummeted to earth. 一架飞机一头栽向地面。 来自《简明英汉词典》

10 pundit   

n.博学之人；权威

参考例句：

• Even the outstanding excellent graduate will learn constantly if he likes to be a pundit.即使最优秀的结业生，要想成为一个博学的人也要不断地研究。
• He is a well known political pundit.他是一个著名的政治专家。

11 vice   

n.坏事；恶习；[pl.]台钳，老虎钳；adj.副的

参考例句：

• He guarded himself against vice.他避免染上坏习惯。
• They are sunk in the depth of vice.他们堕入了罪恶的深渊。

12 premier   

adj.首要的；n.总理，首相

参考例句：

• The Irish Premier is paying an official visit to Britain.爱尔兰总理正在对英国进行正式访问。
• He requested that the premier grant him an internview.他要求那位总理接见他一次。

13 treasury   

n.宝库；国库，金库；文库

参考例句：

• The Treasury was opposed in principle to the proposals.财政部原则上反对这些提案。
• This book is a treasury of useful information.这本书是有价值的信息宝库。

14 chancellor   

n.(英)大臣；法官；(德、奥)总理；大学校长

参考例句：

• They submitted their reports to the Chancellor yesterday.他们昨天向财政大臣递交了报告。
• He was regarded as the most successful Chancellor of modern times.他被认为是现代最成功的财政大臣。

15 conglomerates   

n.（多种经营的）联合大企业( conglomerate的名词复数 )；砾岩；合成物；组合物

参考例句：

• At the surface, radioactivity of the conglomerates is locally as high as 30 X background. 在地表，砾岩的局部地段的放射性高达30倍本底值。 来自辞典例句
• The conglomerates failed to understand that books could not be sold like soap. 这些联合大企业不懂卖书不象卖肥皂那样。 来自辞典例句

16 banking   

n.银行业，银行学，金融业

参考例句：

• John is launching his son on a career in banking.约翰打算让儿子在银行界谋一个新职位。
• He possesses an extensive knowledge of banking.他具有广博的银行业务知识。

17 corporate   

adj.共同的，全体的；公司的，企业的

参考例句：

• This is our corporate responsibility.这是我们共同的责任。
• His corporate's life will be as short as a rabbit's tail.他的公司的寿命是兔子尾巴长不了。