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STEVE INSKEEP, HOST:
Democratic presidential candidate Cory Booker says he wants to unite a divided nation.
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CORY BOOKER: I love rugged1 individualism and self-reliance. But rugged individualism didn't get us to the moon. It didn't beat the Nazis2 or Jim Crow.
INSKEEP: He says collective action did. Booker is a senator from New Jersey3. He's centered his presidential campaign on unity4 and love. He's the former Democratic mayor of Newark, N.J., who collaborated5 with former Republican Governor Chris Christie. His presidential announcement video was filled with diverse Americans drumming and playing in marching bands.
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BOOKER: In America, we have a common pain. But what we're lacking is a sense of common purpose.
INSKEEP: OK. But many politicians say things like that. Who does Booker mean to bring together, and how? We asked when he came by our studios accompanied by a single aide. It is the first of our Opening Arguments - talks with prominent declared presidential contenders.
BOOKER: It wasn't Strom Thurmond that ran to the Senate floor and said one day, it's time for those negro people to have some rights. No, it was blacks and whites, Christians7 and Jews, Democrats8 and Republicans who joined in uncommon9 coalitions11 of conscience to deal with injustice12.
INSKEEP: So is it not exactly a progressive coalition10? It's a coalition of conscience is the phrase that you just used.
BOOKER: You know, these labels that we slap on each other and then dismiss each other because we're - have different labels aren't helping13 our republic. And I'd like to start talking about shared values and shared ideals.
INSKEEP: Let me throw a hypothetical voter at you. And I've interviewed voters very much like what I'm going to describe - blue-collar guy, Lordstown, Ohio, just lost his job at a GM plant that is closing, voted once for President Obama but also found President Trump14 attractive, voted for him once, thinking about it again. Is that guy in your coalition?
BOOKER: That guy needs to - we need to speak to his pain. Our politics need to speak to his pain and be able to address the real concerns he has at the kitchen table. I went out to the Midwest, to the heartland and met with Republicans in Missouri, in Kansas and Nebraska on farms. And one of those families didn't even want me in their home when they researched me on their part of the Internet. They called the person I was - who was showing me around and said, hey. We're a Christian6 family. We can't have Cory Booker in our home.
INSKEEP: What made you unpalatable to a Christian family so described?
BOOKER: Whatever they were told by their trusted media - and we all have it. But the friend asked him to come - for me to go see him. I met him at his door. Then we went into his home and found so much common ground because we both agree that the corporate15 consolidation16 is killing17 the independent American family farmer.
INSKEEP: We should note that plenty of Republicans in the Senate have indicated that they like you. But what happens if it's 2021, you've been elected president the United States? Like President Obama, you try to transcend18 partisanship19. But the political calculation of the moment for Republicans is they need to oppose you on everything. That's the only way they get back in power.
BOOKER: You know, look. If I was going to surrender to cynicism about our nation in that way - I think cynicism is a toxic20 spiritual state.
INSKEEP: But I mean, it happened once. What do you do when it happens again?
BOOKER: Yeah. I went to Newark, N.J., at a time that people were so disrespecting, disregarding that city. I mean, it was literally21 being made fun of by late-night talk show hosts. And people told me, oh, we've tried these things before. It doesn't work. And we got incredibly creative. And at times, I reached out to conservatives I could find coalitions with - Christian evangelicals - not on everything. But I found common ground. And we got things done.
If you go to Newark, N.J., right now, we've gone through our biggest economic development period in 60 years. We have - our schools were just shown to be the No. 1 beat-the-odds school system in America - high poverty, high performance. This is an election. We have a chance to have a revival22 of civic23 grace. And we need leaders that are going to be committed to those ideals and dealing24 with the cause of injustice in our country.
INSKEEP: Suppose you win the election. Democrats win the Senate. It's a really good 2020 for Democrats. You go out there and push for "Medicare-for-all" - goes to the United States Senate and Republicans feel it's socialism and filibuster25 it. Do you, at that point, urge Democrats to get rid of the filibuster?
BOOKER: No. I've heard some good arguments since February when people started getting into my face about, we've got to get rid of the filibuster. People on the left feel very strongly about it. I'm willing to listen to more arguments. But we need to understand that there's good reason to have a Senate where we're forced to find pragmatic, bipartisan solutions. Let's be a country that operates from that sense of common purpose.
INSKEEP: President Bush tried to bring together a consensus26 on immigration - couldn't get it done. President Obama tried to bring together a consensus on immigration, couldn't get that done, eventually took executive action. President Trump had a very different agenda for immigration, couldn't get his program done either and has just taken executive action. If you're in that same situation as the last three presidents, facing the problems with immigration right now, do you take executive action?
BOOKER: You do what you can on the powers of the presidency27 allow, and I will do a lot of that. I mean, what's happening with DACA kids - deferred28 action children, the DREAMers, as they're called, is - violates the values of people on both sides of the aisle29. You have President Trump, even rhetorically, saying he supports those children. You do everything you can to affirm the values of our country. And what you don't do is what we see coming from the presidency, which is rank racist31 rhetoric30.
INSKEEP: Was President Obama's move to, effectively, legalize, for two-year periods, Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals people - was that constitutional?
BOOKER: I believe it was constitutional. I believe it was not just constitutional. It reflects common sense.
INSKEEP: Meaning that if you're president and it hasn't been taken care of yet, you might just flip32 it right back the way Obama had it.
BOOKER: I will do everything I can to ensure that DACA children, that DREAMers, who are Americans in every way except for a piece of paper - I had a DACA kid that came with me to the State of the Union address a year or two back. She'd started an Internet platform that helped to give employment opportunities to hundreds of people. We're going to deport33 her. When there's an injustice, people have to understand that often, the opposite of injustice is silence and indifference34 and apathy35.
INSKEEP: Is Silicon36 Valley - the firms there, where you have lots of connections. You went to Stanford, which is nearby. Is Silicon Valley part of the coalition you want to bring together behind you?
BOOKER: You know, we need to bring this nation together. It doesn't mean we forgive what I call bad actions or bad actors. We need to make sure that whether it's Silicon Valley or the pharma industry or the big ag, we need to hold people accountable for their actions.
INSKEEP: Recode, which looks into tech stuff, wrote a long article about you. And they dug up a tweet from 2009. And you, apparently37, had had an exciting day in Silicon Valley. Quote, "from green tech to social media, inspiring meetings today. Incredible Silicon Valley leaders who are literally changing, empowering the world." Do you think that's still true?
BOOKER: I mean, I don't know. We're sitting in front of each other, so I'm about to pull out...
INSKEEP: Looks like an iPhone.
BOOKER: It looks like an iPhone. And, you know, there's a democratization that's going on that technology allows. I've used it in Newark. Let's use just one platform, which is to help people get access to capital. There's so much good that is coming from technology and innovation. At the same time, though, as I lift my phone up again in front of you, do I want one of the big tech firms to be taking my data from me and doing things that are violative of my values?
These are things that are wrong. And so why do we need to universally condemn38 entire sectors39 of our society as opposed to talking about what's happening within them that is in violation40 of our values and creating regulations and rules that make sure that they are affirming what's in the best interest of our country?
INSKEEP: Senator Booker, thanks so much for coming by.
BOOKER: I appreciate you. Thank you.
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