纽约时报 伊朗问题和金正恩问题 特朗普与博尔顿各执一词(4)（在线收听）

In the past six months, the Mexican government has deported more than 80,500 migrants

政府数据显示，过去6个月，墨西哥政府遣返了超8.05万移民，

back to their homes in Central America and elsewhere, according to government data.

强迫他们返回中美洲和其他地方的老家。

During the same period, Mexican authorities detained about 400 people accused of trafficking migrants.

在这期间，墨西哥当局还拘留了大约400名被控走私移民的人。

And nearly 25,000 migrants applied for refuge in Mexico in the first five months of 2019.

此外，2019年前5个月时间里，就有近2.5万移民在墨西哥申请避难。

“The Mexican government could interdict more migrants for sure,

“墨西哥政府绝对是能够阻止更多移民的，

but they can’t just flip a switch and turn off the flow,”

但他们没办法像按开关一样立刻切断移民流，”

said Kevin Appleby, a veteran expert on migration.

资深移民专家凯文·阿普尔比评论说。

In Mexico, there is popular support for treating Central American migrants humanely,

在墨西哥，人们普遍支持给予中美洲移民人道接待，

and many Mexicans do not want to see President Andrés Manuel López Obrador bow to the wishes of his counterpart in the United States.

而且，许多墨西哥人都不希望看到总统安德烈斯·曼努埃尔·洛佩斯·奥夫拉多尔屈从于美国总统的意愿。

“He’s between a rock and a hard place.

“他现在也是进退两难。

He doesn’t want to be seen as being a toady to the United States,”

他既不想大家认为他只会一味讨好美国，”

said Doug Massey, a professor of sociology at Princeton University and a director of the Mexican Migration Project.

普林斯顿大学社会学教授、墨西哥移民项目主任道格·梅西说。

“He doesn’t want to violate the human rights of Central Americans,

“也不想侵犯中美洲人的人权，

who after all are simply escaping terrible conditions.”

毕竟那些人也只是想逃离原来那些可怕的生存环境。”

Carlos Heredia, a professor at the Centro de Investigación y Docencia Económicas in Mexico City,

墨西哥经济教育研究中心教授卡洛斯·赫里迪亚周二表示，

said on Tuesday that whatever action Mexico takes to prevent migration into the United States,

墨西哥无论采取何种行动阻止移民进入美国，

it was unlikely to satisfy the president.

都不太可能让总统满意。

“If there is any logic to the way that President Trump handles policy, it’s that he likes conflict,” Mr. Heredia said.

“如果非要说特朗普总统处理政务的方式有什么逻辑的话，那就是他喜欢冲突，”赫里迪亚说。

“I don’t think that there is a way to please Trump.”

“我认为取悦特朗普的方法根本就不存在。”

Others said that it would take time for Mexico to make the changes the Trump administration was requesting.

其他人表示，墨西哥需要时间来做出特朗普政府要求的那些改变。

"This is not going to happen in seven days,"

“7天时间根本不够，”

said Arturo Sarukhan, a former Mexican ambassador to the U.S.

墨西哥前驻美大使沙鲁坎说。

"You can't enforce your way out of a migration crisis."

“想要从移民危机中硬闯出一条路来是不可能的。”

Mr. Trump’s tariff threat is driven largely by the significant increase in the number of migrants crossing illegally at the border.

特朗普的关税威胁很大程度上是非法越境的移民人数大幅增加引起的。

Having vowed during his campaign to stop illegal immigration,

竞选时总统曾承诺要结束非法移民，

the president views the increasing flow of migrants as a personal affront and a threat to his political brand.

在他看来，不断增加的移民潮就是对他个人的侮辱，是对他政治品牌的威胁。

More than 100,000 of those arrested in May

官员们说，5月份在到达边境时被捕的人中，

were unaccompanied children or migrants traveling as a family when they arrived at the border, officials said.

无人陪同的儿童或与家人一起越境的移民人数达到了10万以上。

In March 2017, shortly after Mr. Trump took office, that number was about 2,000, according to government records.

政府记录显示，2017年3月，也即特朗普刚上任不久之际，这个数字才2000人左右。

“We are at a full blown emergency,” said John Sanders, the acting commissioner of Customs and Border Protection.

“我们已经陷入了全面紧急状态，”美国海关和边境保护局代理局长约翰·桑德斯说。

“I cannot say this stronger: the system is broken.”

“我不知道我还要怎么说：我们的边防体系已经崩溃了。”