美国国家公共电台 NPR Trump Adviser Says One Of The GOP Nominee's Signature Plans Is 'Not Workable'

Trump¹ Adviser² Says One Of The GOP Nominee's Signature Plans Is 'Not Workable'

STEVE INSKEEP, HOST:

Fifty Republican security experts released a letter yesterday saying Trump is unfit to be president, said he'd be the most reckless president in American history. Trump does have the support of a longtime Democrat³, retired⁴ Lieutenant⁵ General Michael Flynn. Flynn is a former head of the Defense⁶ Intelligence Agency, and he's a critic of President Obama's Syria policy. He spoke⁷ at the Republican Convention. He's also written a book called "The Field Of Fight," which portrays⁸ the United States facing a loose coalition⁹ of enemies, such as Iran and Russia. If Trump is friendly toward Russia, Flynn thinks that's OK. There must be some relationship. And like his candidate, Flynn also sees a problem with radical¹⁰ Islam.

MICHAEL FLYNN: Something is happening in this Islamic ideology¹¹. And the rise of radical Islamism is really dangerous for the world. And we cannot have this just sort of, well, we're always going to have to deal with this problem. I don't think that that's a good answer.

INSKEEP: Do you think that banning Muslims from entering the United States and sending that signal to all of them around the world is going to encourage Muslims to take a friendlier posture¹² toward the West?

FLYNN: This is not about a permanent ban. This is about understanding what is happening with this rapid rise of radical Islamism. And we know, Steve, that the Islamic State has - and they've stated it - they actually stated it in their various media outlets¹³ - that they are going to infiltrate¹⁴ into the refugee populations that are entering different countries around the world. They've said that. So I think that what we have to do is we have to recognize, how do we screen, vet¹⁵ and properly, you know, document those individuals who are coming into our country...

INSKEEP: You raise a good point, General, when you talk about...

FLYNN: Yeah.

INSKEEP: ...Clarifying this. And I appreciate you saying that because Trump initially¹⁶ did say he wanted not a permanent, but a temporary ban of...

FLYNN: Right.

INSKEEP: ...All Muslims...

FLYNN: Right, right.

INSKEEP: Then he began making exceptions. Maybe there's some Muslims he would let in. Then he gave a national security speech at which he, instead of a religion, which was widely criticized, talked about banning people from particular countries where terrorists were active. Critics have since noted¹⁷ that you'd have to ban people from France. You'd have to ban people from the United States from coming to the United States because there's been terrorist acts all over the world. In the end, do we have here a laudable effort to protect the United States from all harm that is just not workable at all?

FLYNN: Well, I think that's a great question to ask. And I would love to hear that question, Steve, asked in one of the upcoming debates. I think that our responsibility is for safety and protection of American citizens abroad and at home. I think that's the principal duty, you know...

INSKEEP: But does that...

FLYNN: ...What...

INSKEEP: I asked, is this just not workable to ban whole classes of people? You agree with that - that it's not working.

FLYNN: Well, I - yeah. I mean, you can't just say, you know, blanket. But what you have to do is recognize that we have a completely different threat environment that we are dealing¹⁸ with now. So we have to think differently, and we have to use some imagination. And we have to still protect our American values and what we represent to the rest of the world. So to put a blanket on any organization, any segment of the population, is not workable. But we do have to recognize what types of things must we be able to do to continue to protect our own country and our way of life.

INSKEEP: One other thing I want to ask about, General Flynn...

FLYNN: Yeah.

INSKEEP: ...Some people will know that you spent more than 30 years in the military. How much does experience matter when you're trying to make wise decisions about foreign policy?

FLYNN: Yeah, I think experience matters a lot. I think judgment¹⁹ matters a lot. I think that instincts come with experience. I do think that there is also something to be said about accountability and responsibility. I believe that we have a political class in our country that has - doesn't even know what accountability and responsibility even means anymore to the American public. And that includes one of the, you know, one of the candidates running for president United States, and that's Hillary Clinton. I just - I don't see that.

INSKEEP: I want to zero in on one thing that you said you said. You said experience was important for so many reasons, one of them being that it helps you develop the right instincts. You're supporting a candidate who has no experience in foreign policy and says that he relies on his instincts, rather than reading a lot of books, for example. What evidence, specifically, have you seen that he has mastered foreign policy questions?

FLYNN: Well, I would say, one, is he's got a good grasp for the kind of people that he does bring around him, and he's a great listener. I know that in some of the conversations - very strategic conversations about, you know, the way the world is and the way the world can be if America remains²⁰ very strong, especially economically, you know, there's an awful lot of presidents that, prior to becoming the president, had very little experience, to include Barack Obama. I mean, Barack Obama had almost zero foreign policy experience, if any.

INSKEEP: Lieutenant General Michael Flynn. Thanks very much, General.

FLYNN: Thanks, Steve.

INSKEEP: General Flynn has advised Donald Trump and is the author of "The Field Of Fight: How We Can Win The Global War Against Radical Islam And Its Allies."

1 trump   

n.王牌，法宝；v.打出王牌，吹喇叭

参考例句：

• He was never able to trump up the courage to have a showdown.他始终鼓不起勇气摊牌。
• The coach saved his star player for a trump card.教练保留他的明星选手，作为他的王牌。

2 adviser   

n.劝告者，顾问

参考例句：

• They employed me as an adviser.他们聘请我当顾问。
• Our department has engaged a foreign teacher as phonetic adviser.我们系已经聘请了一位外籍老师作为语音顾问。

3 democrat   

n.民主主义者，民主人士；民主党党员

参考例句：

• The Democrat and the Public criticized each other.民主党人和共和党人互相攻击。
• About two years later,he was defeated by Democrat Jimmy Carter.大约两年后，他被民主党人杰米卡特击败。

4 retired   

adj.隐退的，退休的，退役的

参考例句：

• The old man retired to the country for rest.这位老人下乡休息去了。
• Many retired people take up gardening as a hobby.许多退休的人都以从事园艺为嗜好。

5 lieutenant   

n.陆军中尉，海军上尉；代理官员，副职官员

参考例句：

• He was promoted to be a lieutenant in the army.他被提升为陆军中尉。
• He prevailed on the lieutenant to send in a short note.他说动那个副官，递上了一张简短的便条进去。

6 defense   

n.防御，保卫；[pl.]防务工事；辩护，答辩

参考例句：

• The accused has the right to defense.被告人有权获得辩护。
• The war has impacted the area with military and defense workers.战争使那个地区挤满了军队和防御工程人员。

7 spoke   

n.（车轮的）辐条；轮辐；破坏某人的计划；阻挠某人的行动 v.讲，谈（speak的过去式）；说；演说；从某种观点来说

参考例句：

• They sourced the spoke nuts from our company.他们的轮辐螺帽是从我们公司获得的。
• The spokes of a wheel are the bars that connect the outer ring to the centre.辐条是轮子上连接外圈与中心的条棒。

8 portrays   

v.画像( portray的第三人称单数 )；描述；描绘；描画

参考例句：

• The museum collection vividly portrays the heritage of 200 years of canals. 博物馆的藏品让运河200 年的历史再现眼前。 来自《简明英汉词典》
• The film portrays Gandhi as a kind of superman. 这部电影把甘地描绘成一个超人。 来自《简明英汉词典》

9 coalition   

n.结合体，同盟，结合，联合

参考例句：

• The several parties formed a coalition.这几个政党组成了政治联盟。
• Coalition forces take great care to avoid civilian casualties.联盟军队竭尽全力避免造成平民伤亡。

10 radical   

n.激进份子，原子团，根号；adj.根本的，激进的，彻底的

参考例句：

• The patient got a radical cure in the hospital.病人在医院得到了根治。
• She is radical in her demands.她的要求十分偏激。

11 ideology   

n.意识形态，(政治或社会的)思想意识

参考例句：

• The ideology has great influence in the world.这种思想体系在世界上有很大的影响。
• The ideal is to strike a medium between ideology and inspiration.我的理想是在意识思想和灵感鼓动之间找到一个折衷。

12 posture   

n.姿势，姿态，心态，态度；v.作出某种姿势

参考例句：

• The government adopted an uncompromising posture on the issue of independence.政府在独立这一问题上采取了毫不妥协的态度。
• He tore off his coat and assumed a fighting posture.他脱掉上衣，摆出一副打架的架势。

13 outlets   

n.出口( outlet的名词复数 )；经销店；插座；廉价经销店

参考例句：

• The dumping of foreign cotton blocked outlets for locally grown cotton. 外国棉花的倾销阻滞了当地生产的棉花的销路。 来自《简明英汉词典》
• They must find outlets for their products. 他们必须为自己的产品寻找出路。 来自《现代汉英综合大词典》

14 infiltrate   

vt./vi.渗入，透过；浸润

参考例句：

• The teacher tried to infiltrate her ideas into the children's minds.老师设法把她的思想渗透到孩子们的心中。
• It can infiltrate as much as 100 kilometers into enemy territory at night.可以在夜间深入敌领土100千米。

15 vet   

n.兽医，退役军人；vt.检查

参考例句：

• I took my dog to the vet.我把狗带到兽医诊所看病。
• Someone should vet this report before it goes out.这篇报道发表之前应该有人对它进行详查。

16 initially   

adv.最初，开始

参考例句：

• The ban was initially opposed by the US.这一禁令首先遭到美国的反对。
• Feathers initially developed from insect scales.羽毛最初由昆虫的翅瓣演化而来。

17 noted   

adj.著名的，知名的

参考例句：

• The local hotel is noted for its good table.当地的那家酒店以餐食精美而著称。
• Jim is noted for arriving late for work.吉姆上班迟到出了名。

18 dealing   

n.经商方法，待人态度

参考例句：

• This store has an excellent reputation for fair dealing.该商店因买卖公道而享有极高的声誉。
• His fair dealing earned our confidence.他的诚实的行为获得我们的信任。

19 judgment   

n.审判；判断力，识别力，看法，意见

参考例句：

• The chairman flatters himself on his judgment of people.主席自认为他审视人比别人高明。
• He's a man of excellent judgment.他眼力过人。

20 remains   

n.剩余物，残留物；遗体，遗迹

参考例句：

• He ate the remains of food hungrily.他狼吞虎咽地吃剩余的食物。
• The remains of the meal were fed to the dog.残羹剩饭喂狗了。