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RACHEL MARTIN, HOST:
There's a new translation of the Hebrew Bible, or what Christians1 call the Old Testament2. The three-volume set runs over 3,000 pages. It was a solo project by literary scholar Robert Alter. It took him 24 years to finish it. And he admits, at times, it was a real challenge.
ROBERT ALTER: If you keep going verse by verse, looking at the commentaries and wrestling with difficult words and so forth3, you can get a little batty.
MARTIN: Fortunately, he says he had other literature to occupy his mind.
ALTER: Nabokov and Stendhal and Flaubert and Dickens and so forth. And I kept doing those things. That kept me sane4 in a way.
MARTIN: I talked to Alter about why he decided5 to treat the Bible as a work of literature rather than as a religious text.
ALTER: The main reason is I'm a literary guy. And the Hebrew Bible - it has low points, like, as any writer has certain low points. But on the whole, it reflects a very high level of literary artistry. And what I found was that the existing English version simply didn't do justice to the literary beauty of the Hebrew.
MARTIN: Christians, of course, think of the Hebrew Bible as the Old Testament, as somehow valuable only in that it is the precursor6 to the New Testament.
ALTER: That's right.
MARTIN: Some reviewers are saying that this translation is valuable because it liberates7 the Hebrew Bible from the New Testament. Was that part of the intention behind it? And if so, what did you have to do to make that happen?
ALTER: In trying to be faithful to the literary art of the Hebrew Bible, I certainly edged it away from being merely a precursor to the New Testament, which is different kind of writing altogether. I would also say that in certain ways, I found myself, in the effort to be faithful to the original, cleaning up the Christological references in the existing translation. I'll give you two examples. I don't use the word soul at all. I don't think I use it a single time. And that's because the Hebrew word translated very often as soul means something like life breath. You know, it's a very physical thing. And there is no concept among the biblical writers in a split between body and soul. So I got rid of the soul.
Perhaps the piquant8 example, which every listener I think will be familiar with, is the 23rd Psalm9 - so thou anointest my head with oil in the King James. Everybody does that, including the moderns, but the Hebrew verb does not mean to anoint. The word that's actually used by the psalmist means to make luxuriant - something like that. It's a very physical word. So after wrestling with other alternatives, some of which were ill-advised - you always do that as a translator - I ended up saying you moisten my head with oil. You know, it feels good because you rub good olive oil into your head...
MARTIN: Yeah.
ALTER: ...Into your hair.
MARTIN: It's a nurturing10 - yeah.
ALTER: Right.
MARTIN: So did you often need to speak aloud when doing this, to hear how it felt on your tongue, in your mouth, as you were saying these words?
ALTER: I have a very peculiar11 way of writing. I write - this may shock some of your listeners - by longhand.
MARTIN: You translated the Hebrew Bible by longhand?
ALTER: I did.
MARTIN: Come on.
ALTER: (Laughter). So I'm very particular. I write on narrow-lined paper, and I have a Cross mechanical pencil. They should give me a few free ones because I really endorse12 them.
MARTIN: You think? Yeah, let's see if we can make that happen.
ALTER: (Laughter) OK.
MARTIN: Wow.
ALTER: And before I hand the scrawl13 to the transcriber14, I make an audio recording15 of it. So I do read everything out loud.
MARTIN: I wonder if you could talk a little about the - I guess mechanics is the right word. Hebrew is a more compact language than English.
ALTER: Ah, yes. You touch on an essential point. Words squeeze together. That is, and he saw him, which is three or four words in English, is one word in the Hebrew because you know it's he in way the verb is conjugated16. And then there's a little suffix17 at the end of the verb that tells you it's him.
In addition, there are not a lot of polysyllabic words in Biblical Hebrew. So one thing I do is that I avoid words with many syllables18. Usually, those are the words - you probably know - that come from Greek or Latin origins. And then I simply get rid of words that seem extraneous19. In Psalm 30, the speaker, who has almost died, apparently20 from an illness, says in the King James version, what profit is there in my blood? That doesn't quite sound like a line of poetry - actually, a half-line of poetry. And what I did was I used the same words, but I dropped the is there - so what profit in my blood, which actually has the same rhythm as the Hebrew (speaking Hebrew). So I do that again and again.
MARTIN: I suppose it is inevitable21 that someone else will attempt to do this down the road, probably many years from now. What guidance would you give that person? What would you hope that that person could improve upon?
ALTER: Well, I think a translator of a great work is delusional22 if he or she thinks there aren't places where the translation falls down. Let's hope this translator is many, many decades down the road.
MARTIN: (Laughter) Of course.
ALTER: This translator, who will be more resourceful with the English language than I am, will say, that's awkward. I can see he's trying to get the literal sense of the Hebrew, but it sounds goofy in English, and I can do better than that.
MARTIN: Robert Alter - his new translation of the Hebrew Bible is available now. Thank you so much for talking with us.
ALTER: It's been a pleasure, really.
(SOUNDBITE OF ELUVIUM SONG, "WEIRD CREATURES")
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n.基督教徒( Christian的名词复数 ) | |
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6 precursor | |
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7 liberates | |
解放,释放( liberate的第三人称单数 ) | |
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8 piquant | |
adj.辛辣的,开胃的,令人兴奋的 | |
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9 psalm | |
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10 nurturing | |
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12 endorse | |
vt.(支票、汇票等)背书,背署;批注;同意 | |
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19 extraneous | |
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