PBS高端访谈:希拉里呼吁美国进行警务改革

 　　JUDY WOODRUFF: We return to the events in Dallas and the violence involving police across the country this week.

　　And we get the perspective of the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee¹, Hillary Clinton.

　　We also invited Donald Trump². He declined, but we hope to talk with him soon.

　　I spoke³ with the Secretary Clinton a short time ago.

　　Welcome, Secretary Clinton.

　　As I talk to you, we're hearing about still more attacks on the police in this country.

　　Why do you think it is, more than 50 years after the height of the civil rights movement, that we're seeing events in this country like what we have witnessed this week?

　　希拉里呼吁美国进行警务改革

　　HILLARY CLINTON (D), Presumptive Presidential Nominee: Judy, I wish I could answer that question. I have thought so much about it.

　　And I'm not sure of all the reasons why we are witnessing this kind of violence. And we have got to look at it broadly. What happened in Dallas, what's happening to other police officers in our country is absolutely outrageous⁴.

　　We have got to do much more to protect and respect the police. And we have to do much more to make sure that citizens in our country, particularly African-Americans, feel respected and protected by the police.

　　I think we have got to listen to each other. We need a conversation. White people need to be listening to African-Americans about what it feels like to live with, you know, fear and anxiety, to be profiled, to worry about what will happen to their children when they go out to play or out on a date or go for a drive.

　　We have to listen to the fears of our police officers, who get up every day and do a dangerous job, like the police in Dallas who ran toward the shooting when it broke out after a peaceful protest.

　　I'm going to do everything I can in this campaign to try to find common ground, bring people together. And I have got some specific ideas about what we can do for criminal justice reform. We need national guidelines about the use of force, particularly lethal⁵ force.

　　We need to work with the 18,000 police departments in our country, some of whom are real models and others should be learning from about how they de-escalate tension, rather than turning a routine traffic stop into a killing⁶.

　　And, of course, we need to investigate the implicit⁷ bias⁸ that, unfortunately, too many of us still have. And when it's an implicit bias in a police officer, it can lead to an escalating⁹ situation.

　　So, we have got work to do. Certainly, our elected officials, our leaders in our communities, but really all of us as Americans have a stake in trying to listen respectfully to each other and, you know, really try to find ways we can contribute to ending this violence that is stalking our nation.

　　JUDY WOODRUFF: So, are you saying you think you could make more progress on this than an African-American president who has made improving race relations a priority of his administration?

　　HILLARY CLINTON: Well, I think President Obama has done an extraordinary job in trying to explain and provide information to anyone who's willing to listen about the inequities and the difficulties that are being confronted by so many of our fellow Americans.

　　His policing commission that he put together after Ferguson, Missouri, has excellent recommendations, but not enough police departments have followed them. And I want to put money in the budget when I'm president to make it possible for every police department to implement¹⁰ these important reforms.

　　And I think, too, there has got to be a national conversation. And it can't be just elected officials. We need people in communities talking to each other. You know, during the primary campaign in Kentucky, I had a wonderful experience one Sunday morning going to an African-American church.

　　And it just so happened, the day I was there, they were being visited by a white church. So, you had a mixed choir¹¹. You had both preachers addressing the congregation. You had people shaking hands and exchanging views and talking about their lives.

　　You know, that may sound easy, but it's hard in lots of places in our country. And it needs to happen not just on Sunday. It needs to happen every day.

　　And, as a white person, I want to make clear that whites have to listen. We have to recognize, you know, many of the fears and anxieties that our African-American, our Latino and others in our society feel. We saw the terrible shooting at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, our LGBT friends.

　　I mean, this cuts across so many of the divides in our country. And it should send a clarion¹² call to every single one of us. We do not want to live like this. We don't want people, any American, living in fear. We don't want our police living in fear.

　　And if we want to end that, we're going to have to work together.

　　JUDY WOODRUFF: Madam Secretary, we also want to ask you about the FBI report that came out this week.

　　We heard the director, James Comey, say they were not going to recommend criminal charges against you, but he said that you and your colleagues at the State Department were, in his words, extremely careless in the handling of very sensitive, highly classified information.

　　Do you believe you benefited from a double standard, that ordinary government employees experience one sort of treatment and a different one for you?

　　HILLARY CLINTON: No, not at all.

　　In fact, I think Director Comey made exactly the opposite point in his long testimony¹³ yesterday, that those who somehow hoped that action would be taken are the ones who were hoping for a double standard.

　　He made very clear there was no basis for going forward. And he also clarified what he said in his statement.

　　You know, with respect to the handling of classified material, I take it very seriously, and the 300 or so people with whom I e-mailed on the course of my time in the State Department do as well. These are experienced diplomats¹⁴. They have expertise¹⁵ in handling classified material. They were not careless.

　　And the material that they sent to me, they didn't believe was classified. The very, very few examples that Director Comey pointed¹⁶ to have also been clarified, as he accounted yesterday. The State Department has said two of the three that he had pointed to were human error. They were not to be classified.

　　So, I'm very proud of the work that we did over four years. And I'm very proud of our diplomats and our other professionals, who have to act in real time. They are responding to heads of state, to press inquiries¹⁷. And they are doing the best they can. I do not believe they were careless. I do not believe that they sent material that they thought was classified, and certainly no finding of anything intentional¹⁸ was made after this investigation¹⁹.

　　JUDY WOODRUFF: Last question, then. Do you think Director Comey erred²⁰ in calling it — in saying it was extremely careless?

　　And I ask that because one of the arguments you make in your comparison with Donald Trump is that you, as a president, would be more competent than he would be in the White House.

　　HILLARY CLINTON: Well, I think there is a lot of evidence to that, based on eight years as a senator handling a lot of classified material, based as four years as a secretary of state, handling classified material, which, in my view, didn't include what was sent on an unclassified system, and certainly was the judgment²¹ of the hundreds of people with experience and expertise who dealt with me.

　　But, look, I am grateful for the professionalism of the FBI and the Department of Justice. And I repeat that I made a mistake using personal e-mail, and I regret that very much.

　　But I think, if one looks at the totality of my public service and the very difficult decisions that I grappled with, from bin²² Laden²³ to the Iran sanctions and so much more, people can count on me to do the job that is required.

　　JUDY WOODRUFF: Secretary Hillary Clinton, we thank you for talking to us on this day.

　　HILLARY CLINTON: Thank you very much, Judy.

 

1 nominee   

n.被提名者；被任命者；被推荐者

参考例句：

• His nominee for vice president was elected only after a second ballot.他提名的副总统在两轮投票后才当选。
• Mr.Francisco is standing as the official nominee for the post of District Secretary.弗朗西斯科先生是行政书记职位的正式提名人。

2 trump   

n.王牌，法宝；v.打出王牌，吹喇叭

参考例句：

• He was never able to trump up the courage to have a showdown.他始终鼓不起勇气摊牌。
• The coach saved his star player for a trump card.教练保留他的明星选手，作为他的王牌。

3 spoke   

n.（车轮的）辐条；轮辐；破坏某人的计划；阻挠某人的行动 v.讲，谈（speak的过去式）；说；演说；从某种观点来说

参考例句：

• They sourced the spoke nuts from our company.他们的轮辐螺帽是从我们公司获得的。
• The spokes of a wheel are the bars that connect the outer ring to the centre.辐条是轮子上连接外圈与中心的条棒。

4 outrageous   

adj.无理的，令人不能容忍的

参考例句：

• Her outrageous behaviour at the party offended everyone.她在聚会上的无礼行为触怒了每一个人。
• Charges for local telephone calls are particularly outrageous.本地电话资费贵得出奇。

5 lethal   

adj.致死的；毁灭性的

参考例句：

• A hammer can be a lethal weapon.铁锤可以是致命的武器。
• She took a lethal amount of poison and died.她服了致命剂量的毒药死了。

6 killing   

n.巨额利润；突然赚大钱，发大财

参考例句：

• Investors are set to make a killing from the sell-off.投资者准备清仓以便大赚一笔。
• Last week my brother made a killing on Wall Street.上个周我兄弟在华尔街赚了一大笔。

7 implicit   

a.暗示的，含蓄的，不明晰的，绝对的

参考例句：

• A soldier must give implicit obedience to his officers. 士兵必须绝对服从他的长官。
• Her silence gave implicit consent. 她的沉默表示默许。

8 bias   

n.偏见，偏心，偏袒；vt.使有偏见

参考例句：

• They are accusing the teacher of political bias in his marking.他们在指控那名教师打分数有政治偏见。
• He had a bias toward the plan.他对这项计划有偏见。

9 escalating   

v.（使）逐步升级( escalate的现在分词 )；（使）逐步扩大；（使）更高；（使）更大

参考例句：

• The cost of living is escalating. 生活费用在迅速上涨。 来自《简明英汉词典》
• The cost of living is escalating in the country. 这个国家的生活费用在上涨。 来自辞典例句

10 implement   

n.(pl.)工具，器具；vt.实行，实施，执行

参考例句：

• Don't undertake a project unless you can implement it.不要承担一项计划，除非你能完成这项计划。
• The best implement for digging a garden is a spade.在花园里挖土的最好工具是铁锹。

11 choir   

n.唱诗班，唱诗班的席位，合唱团，舞蹈团；v.合唱

参考例句：

• The choir sang the words out with great vigor.合唱团以极大的热情唱出了歌词。
• The church choir is singing tonight.今晚教堂歌唱队要唱诗。

12 clarion   

n.尖音小号声；尖音小号

参考例句：

• Clarion calls to liberation had been mocked when we stood by.当我们袖手旁观的时候，自由解放的号角声遭到了嘲弄。
• To all the people present,his speech is a clarion call.对所有在场的人而言，他的演讲都是动人的号召。

13 testimony   

n.证词；见证，证明

参考例句：

• The testimony given by him is dubious.他所作的证据是可疑的。
• He was called in to bear testimony to what the police officer said.他被传入为警官所说的话作证。

14 diplomats   

n.外交官( diplomat的名词复数 )；有手腕的人，善于交际的人

参考例句：

• These events led to the expulsion of senior diplomats from the country. 这些事件导致一些高级外交官被驱逐出境。
• The court has no jurisdiction over foreign diplomats living in this country. 法院对驻本国的外交官无裁判权。 来自《简明英汉词典》

15 expertise   

n.专门知识(或技能等)，专长

参考例句：

• We were amazed at his expertise on the ski slopes.他斜坡滑雪的技能使我们赞叹不已。
• You really have the technical expertise in a new breakthrough.让你真正在专业技术上有一个全新的突破。

16 pointed   

adj.尖的，直截了当的

参考例句：

• He gave me a very sharp pointed pencil.他给我一支削得非常尖的铅笔。
• She wished to show Mrs.John Dashwood by this pointed invitation to her brother.她想通过对达茨伍德夫人提出直截了当的邀请向她的哥哥表示出来。

17 inquiries   

n.调查( inquiry的名词复数 )；疑问；探究；打听

参考例句：

• He was released on bail pending further inquiries. 他获得保释，等候进一步调查。
• I have failed to reach them by postal inquiries. 我未能通过邮政查询与他们取得联系。 来自《现代汉英综合大词典》

18 intentional   

adj.故意的，有意（识）的

参考例句：

• Let me assure you that it was not intentional.我向你保证那不是故意的。
• His insult was intentional.他的侮辱是有意的。

19 investigation   

n.调查，调查研究

参考例句：

• In an investigation,a new fact became known, which told against him.在调查中新发现了一件对他不利的事实。
• He drew the conclusion by building on his own investigation.他根据自己的调查研究作出结论。

20 erred   

犯错误，做错事( err的过去式和过去分词 )

参考例句：

• He erred in his judgement. 他判断错了。
• We will work on those who have erred and help them do right. 我们将对犯了错误的人做工作，并帮助他们改正。

21 judgment   

n.审判；判断力，识别力，看法，意见

参考例句：

• The chairman flatters himself on his judgment of people.主席自认为他审视人比别人高明。
• He's a man of excellent judgment.他眼力过人。

22 bin   

n.箱柜；vt.放入箱内；[计算机] DOS文件名:二进制目标文件

参考例句：

• He emptied several bags of rice into a bin.他把几袋米倒进大箱里。
• He threw the empty bottles in the bin.他把空瓶子扔进垃圾箱。

23 laden   

adj.装满了的；充满了的；负了重担的；苦恼的

参考例句：

• He is laden with heavy responsibility.他肩负重任。
• Dragging the fully laden boat across the sand dunes was no mean feat.将满载货物的船拖过沙丘是一件了不起的事。