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PBS高端访谈:共和党税改法案将使大的小型企业获利

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Judy Woodruff: Much has been made about how the corporate1 tax rate is getting cut under the Republican tax bills being considered in Congress. But there's another important tax cut, one affecting small businesses, that's also been the source of debate and dealing2. Hari Sreenivasan looks at what's at stake in that battle.

Hari Sreenivasan: We're talking about what's known as the pass-through tax rate. It sounds obscure, but it's a rate affecting millions of businesses, ones that are not corporations, per se. And it's called pass-through because the income of these businesses is passed through, so the owner pays the individual tax rate, typically higher than the corporate rate. It affects the kind of classic small business you might think of, say, the corner dry cleaner, but it's not just limited to just those. Hedge funds, partnerships3, and law firms also can pay this rate. Some Republican senators held out to adjust that tax as part of the deal. Jim Tankersley of The New York Times is here to help walk us through this. Jim, I have had a couple of different examples here, but help me understand, who is the primary beneficiary of pass-through rates?

Jim Tankersley: Sure. It's a lot of people. And it's -- just as you said, it starts with that small corner store, mom and pop store, and goes all the way up to lobby shops here in Washington and big law firms. It's really any corporation -- well, sorry -- any business that is not a corporation. And in particular, it's a huge amount of economic activity right now in the United States. The majority of money earned in America comes through pass-throughs, not traditional corporations.

Hari Sreenivasan: So why is this rate or the adjustment of this rate so important to the people who benefit from this?

Jim Tankersley: Well, they want a level playing field with corporations, who are also getting a big tax cut in this bill. And so they have asked for a lot of special treatment compared to just regular workers who pay through all sets of the individual income tax.

Hari Sreenivasan: What are the rates as of now and how would they change? I know that's still being negotiated to some level.

Jim Tankersley: Right. Yes. Well, that's true. There's still some moving pieces in the legislation. But, right now, if you're a pass-through owner, you can pay up to 39.6 percent. That's the top individual income tax rate. The Senate bill would cut that rate to 38 percent for all individuals at the very top. And then, beyond that, for everybody, no matter what your rates are up and down the scale, they would give you a 20 percent deduction4 on the income you earn through your pass-through up to $500,000 for couples, $250,000 for individuals.

Hari Sreenivasan: There's also a big range of small businesses, so to speak, that aren't corporations. So, is there any idea of how many of these small mom and pop stores actually make enough money that they would benefit from not having to pay 39 percent, but maybe now down to 20 percent?

Jim Tankersley: Well, the rate -- it's a deduction, so it actually helps up and down the income scale. So if you pay the 25 percent rate now, and you get a tax cut here, a rate cut, then you're also going to get this deduction on top of that. That's going to help you. It's going to help you if you pay the 12 percent rate. Now, interestingly, it is also going to also help, for example, the Trump5 Corporation, big companies that are again earning that top rate. So, what you have here is a deduction, and what that deduction does is gives everybody up and down the scale some help.

Hari Sreenivasan: So, there have to be some political considerations here of not wanting to look like you're helping6 one constituency over another. Is it the size, or, I guess, is it the peer group of the Trump corporations? Are they likely to benefit more just because they're bigger?

Jim Tankersley: Well, sure, yes. They make more money, so they're going to get more a break. And, like I said, this special benefit phases out a bit. You only get to take a half of it after $500,000. But that's still a lot of money. It's still a big deduction, and, again with the reduction in rates overall, the businesses that earn the most are going get the bulk of the benefits. And we already know that 70 percent of the benefits for pass-throughs in America go to the top 1 percent of American income-earners. So, it is a cut for small businesses. It is also a cut that will predominantly help the rich.

Hari Sreenivasan: One of the larger narratives7 here is the struggle to define who benefits the most. Is it the corporations? Is it the middle class? What do we know about the overall distribution of how this tax plan is coming together?

Jim Tankersley: Overall, in the bill, what we see is sort of a mixed bag for anybody at any income level, but predominantly a tax cut that predominantly helps the rich, but also -- in pure dollar figures -- but also has a lot in it for most middle-class families, but not all of them. There are millions of middle-class families who would actually see a tax increase under the bill right away. And under the Senate bill, at the end of the decade, all American families would see a tax increase because they -- the individual income tax cuts expire at the end of 2025.

Hari Sreenivasan: Yes. While we are wonking out about tax rates and a specific clause, lots and lots of things are related to taxes. And as this bill points out, there are so many different kind of riders to secure votes here, from protections of the unborn, education, of course, health care. Lots of things are affected8 by taxes.

Jim Tankersley: Well, and this bill would do more than just taxes. Drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, for example, in a small portion of it has been added to this bill, at the insistence9 of Senator Lisa Murkowski from Alaska. There are several provisions like that. And in this last frantic10 hours of trying to line up the votes, you can expect Republicans to make even more changes, add even more perhaps extraneous11 and sometimes very central things to the bill in that attempt to win votes.

Hari Sreenivasan: All right, Jim Tankersley of The New York Times, thanks so much.

Jim Tankersley: Thank you.


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1 corporate 7olzl     
adj.共同的,全体的;公司的,企业的
参考例句:
  • This is our corporate responsibility.这是我们共同的责任。
  • His corporate's life will be as short as a rabbit's tail.他的公司的寿命是兔子尾巴长不了。
2 dealing NvjzWP     
n.经商方法,待人态度
参考例句:
  • This store has an excellent reputation for fair dealing.该商店因买卖公道而享有极高的声誉。
  • His fair dealing earned our confidence.他的诚实的行为获得我们的信任。
3 partnerships ce2e6aff420d72bbf56e8077be344bc9     
n.伙伴关系( partnership的名词复数 );合伙人身份;合作关系
参考例句:
  • Partnerships suffer another major disadvantage: decision-making is shared. 合伙企业的另一主要缺点是决定要由大家来作。 来自英汉非文学 - 政府文件
  • It involved selling off limited partnerships. 它涉及到售出有限的合伙权。 来自辞典例句
4 deduction 0xJx7     
n.减除,扣除,减除额;推论,推理,演绎
参考例句:
  • No deduction in pay is made for absence due to illness.因病请假不扣工资。
  • His deduction led him to the correct conclusion.他的推断使他得出正确的结论。
5 trump LU1zK     
n.王牌,法宝;v.打出王牌,吹喇叭
参考例句:
  • He was never able to trump up the courage to have a showdown.他始终鼓不起勇气摊牌。
  • The coach saved his star player for a trump card.教练保留他的明星选手,作为他的王牌。
6 helping 2rGzDc     
n.食物的一份&adj.帮助人的,辅助的
参考例句:
  • The poor children regularly pony up for a second helping of my hamburger. 那些可怜的孩子们总是要求我把我的汉堡包再给他们一份。
  • By doing this, they may at times be helping to restore competition. 这样一来, 他在某些时候,有助于竞争的加强。
7 narratives 91f2774e518576e3f5253e0a9c364ac7     
记叙文( narrative的名词复数 ); 故事; 叙述; 叙述部分
参考例句:
  • Marriage, which has been the bourne of so many narratives, is still a great beginning. 结婚一向是许多小说的终点,然而也是一个伟大的开始。
  • This is one of the narratives that children are fond of. 这是孩子们喜欢的故事之一。
8 affected TzUzg0     
adj.不自然的,假装的
参考例句:
  • She showed an affected interest in our subject.她假装对我们的课题感到兴趣。
  • His manners are affected.他的态度不自然。
9 insistence A6qxB     
n.坚持;强调;坚决主张
参考例句:
  • They were united in their insistence that she should go to college.他们一致坚持她应上大学。
  • His insistence upon strict obedience is correct.他坚持绝对服从是对的。
10 frantic Jfyzr     
adj.狂乱的,错乱的,激昂的
参考例句:
  • I've had a frantic rush to get my work done.我急急忙忙地赶完工作。
  • He made frantic dash for the departing train.他发疯似地冲向正开出的火车。
11 extraneous el5yq     
adj.体外的;外来的;外部的
参考例句:
  • I can choose to ignore these extraneous thoughts.我可以选择无视这些外来的想法。
  • Reductant from an extraneous source is introduced.外来的还原剂被引进来。
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