VOA常速英语2022 埃塞俄比亚人工智能研究人员旨在提高人工智能中黑人个体的包容性（在线收听）

埃塞俄比亚人工智能研究人员旨在提高人工智能中黑人个体的包容性

Ethiopian AI Researcher Aims to Increase Inclusion of Black Individuals in Artificial Intelligence

Do you think you were especially targeted or was it especially challenging because you were you are a woman and also a black woman?

你认为你是被特别针对的还是因为你既是女性又是黑人女性，所以特别具有挑战性？

Yes definitely because I also spoke up I wasnt just that one who didnt speak up,so there was constant I mean the final thing with me being fired was not out of the blue,there was like a number of things that was that were happening throughout my time at Google,so if I were from a different group I wouldnt have spoken at,but then I also saw people from other groups like my manager who started speaking up and then they also started traveling against them,so even our supporters and allies would get retaliated against for every visible person whose story is out of the public limelight like mine,there are many others whove gone through very similar and even way worse experiences which we cant bring to the limelight,because its difficult to come out about a corporation publicly because you could your life can be rude even more,so I think what people should take away from my story is that first thing you want to do is you want the facts to come to light and the facts cant come to light,if people are theyre such an imbalance of power, people are going to be retaliated against for doing that.And this discourages them from joining tech companies.Its not even being discouraged from joining tech companies when they want to join they have to jump through many hoops,so another recruiter who was fired before me her name is April Curley,shes another black woman, she was a recruiter that was trying to get people from Hbcus Black Universities hired at Google,and she talks about how versus people admitted to giving more difficult interview questions for the people they saw.These are like people who have awards that nobody gets during their graduate school studies,people have best paper awards people have all the most amazing credentials you can imagine,and they would find a way to say oh this person probably should not be hired or this person should go through an extra who,then once youre hired then theres also all of this hostility that people face, so its not about someone being discouraged from doing it or not,its its about an active kind of barrier, barrier from barrier from barrier that is actively placed to prevent people from not just joining,but having a healthy kind of life and work.And now you have your own institution called Distribute Artificial Intelligence Research Institute and you are trying to increase the presence of black individuals in the technology,how specially are you encouraging women to come to the field both in the diaspora or in the African continent?

是的，肯定是的。因为我也说出来了所以我被解雇的最后一件事并不是突如其来的，我的意思是最后一件事不是突如其来的，我在谷歌的所有时间里发生了很多事情，所以如果我来自另一个团体，我不会说出来的，但是我也看到了其他团体的人，比如我的经理，他们开始大声疾呼，然后他们也开始反对他们，因此，即使是我们的支持者和盟友也会因为像我这样故事，即使不在公众聚光灯下，而受到报复，还有许多其他人经历过非常相似甚至更糟糕的经历，我们不能把他们带到聚光灯下，因为很难公开谈论一家公司，因为你的生活会变得更加糟糕，所以我认为人们应该从我的故事中学到的是，你想要做的第一件事就是希望事实公之于众，而事实不能公之于众，如果人们的权力是如此的不平衡，人们会因为这样做而受到报复。这阻碍了他们加入科技公司。甚至没有被劝阻加入科技公司，当他们想要加入时，他们必须经历很多困难，另一位在我之前被解雇的招聘人员她的名字是阿普丽尔·柯利，她是另一位黑人女性，她是谷歌的招聘人员，她试图让Hbcus黑人大学的人加入谷歌她还谈到了人们如何承认对他们所见到的人提出了更难的面试问题。这些人就像那些在研究生院学习期间没有人获得的奖项的人，人们拥有最佳论文奖，人们拥有你能想象到的最令人惊叹的资历，他们会想办法说，哦，这个人可能不应该被录用，或者这个人应该经过额外的某个人，一旦你被录用，人们就会面临所有的敌意，所以这不是某人是否被劝阻的问题，这是关于一种活跃的屏障，各种屏障，它被积极放置，以防止人们不仅仅是加入，另外防止人们拥有一种健康的生活和工作。现在你有了自己的机构，叫做分布式人工智能研究所，你正试图增加黑人在这项研究中的存在，你有多特别地鼓励海外或非洲大陆的女性到实地工作？

Diversity and things like that are not just about bringing in certain kinds of people in a specific structure.Its very important to have an interdisciplinary team of researchers not just computer science not just AI or whatever,but so sociologists who study social structures and their importance,people who study tech history and people who do critical analysis of these kind of systems,so when you see the process just like the structure that were in the leadership the way the things we value a lot of women want to join,the expertise that we value right? and the gatekeeping that we dont have a lot of women I want to join,so the makeup of our institute is already I mean were still building it up, its already I mean more than 50 or so women.So you create the opportunity for a woman?46 like yeah so more than actually 70 percent maybe 60 70 percent,so its not like reserved for women but its more than that its not a hostile environment its very simple its really not rocket science.So when the environment is easy women would come.

多样性和诸如此类的事情不仅仅是在一个特定的结构中引入特定类型的人。拥有一个跨学科的研究团队非常重要，不仅仅是计算机科学，也不仅仅是人工智能或其他什么，但是研究社会结构及其重要性的社会学家，研究技术史的人和对这些系统进行批判性分析的人，当你看到这个过程就像我们处于领导地位的结构一样，我们看重的事情很多女性都想加入，我们看重的专业知识，对吧?还有把控的问题，我想加入的女性并不多所以我们学院的组成，我们还在建设它，我是说已经有50多名女性。所以你为女性创造了机会？人数实际上超过70%，可能是60-70%，因此，这不像是为女性保留的，但更重要的是，这不是一个充满敌意的环境，非常简单，真的不是复杂的科学。所以，当环境宽松时，女性就会来。

Its just not a hostile environment its a regular environment where women can live without being sexually harassed,without being interrupted all the time without for each work that they do the man next to them gets recognition,but they dont I mean thats the issue the issue is not that women are not interested in technology,women are plenty interested in technology, its just that they cant survive,because so they have to decide do I do this to myself, like do I live like this, or do I leave and many women leave or dont join.

这不是一个充满敌意的环境，而是一个正常的环境，女性可以在这里生活而不受性骚扰，不会一直被打断，也不会因为他们所做的每一项工作而得到旁边的人的认可，问题所在不是女性对科技不感兴趣，女人对科技很感兴趣，只是她们无法生存，因为她们必须决定我是要这样对待自己，我是要这样生活，还是要离开，很多女性离开或不加入。