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House Committee places blame for Jan. 6 riot on Trump¹

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During a hearing last night in prime time, the House Select Committee investigating January Six made it clear it blames former President Donald Trump for that day's deadly violence.

STEVE INSKEEP, HOST:

Most people know the basic facts of the attack on the Capitol. A challenge for House investigators³ is to show what those facts mean. A House committee played video from January 6. And they also played video of testimony⁴. Witnesses showed it was not a mere⁵ protest or even tourism, as former President Trump's loyalists said. Republican Representative Liz Cheney said the defeated president led a violent attempt to overturn a Democratic election.

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LIZ CHENEY: Tonight, I say this to my Republican colleagues, you are defending the indefensible. There will come a day when Donald Trump is gone, but your dishonor will remain.

INSKEEP: NPR congressional correspondent Claudia Grisales joins us. Good morning.

CLAUDIA GRISALES, BYLINE⁶: Good morning, Steve.

INSKEEP: OK. So if it wasn't a bit of tourism as people attacked police and broke down barricades⁷ and broke windows and damaged things and walked through the Capitol and a number of people were killed, what was it?

GRISALES: Right. Chairman Bennie Thompson said the attack marked the culmination⁸ of an attempted coup⁹ directed by former President Trump to overthrow¹⁰ the government.

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BENNIE THOMPSON: The violence was no accident. It represents Senate - Trump's last stand, most desperate chance to halt the transfer of power.

GRISALES: In a series of video clips, the committee gave us a look into some of the thousand - about a thousand interviews that they conducted. That vast majority was voluntary. Several featured their most high-profile witnesses, such as former Attorney General Bill Barr, Ivanka Trump and her husband, Jared Kushner.

INSKEEP: Well, as we heard from people like that who were so close to the former president, what did their testimony add?

GRISALES: Right. They did present some striking and revealing insight. For example, we saw one exchange with ex-Attorney General Barr using explicit¹¹ language to describe how he told Trump three times that he had lost.

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WILLIAM BARR: I did not agree with the idea of saying the election was stolen and putting out this stuff, which I told the president was [expletive]. And, you know, I didn't want to be a part of it. And that's one of the reasons that went into me deciding to leave when I did.

GRISALES: We also learned Ivanka Trump agreed with Barr's assessment¹² that no election fraud was committed. Here's a portion of her interview with the panel.

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UNIDENTIFIED PERSON: How did that affect your perspective about the election when Attorney General Barr made that statement?

IVANKA TRUMP: It affected¹³ my perspective. I respect Attorney General Barr, so I accepted what he was saying.

INSKEEP: OK, Claudia, so the facts are obvious here. Even people close to Trump knew the facts. Even his family knew the facts, according to this sworn testimony. The two Republicans on the committee know the facts. But there are some other lawmakers who see it in their interest to pretend the facts are otherwise or to change the subject. What are they saying?

GRISALES: Right. Ohio Republican Jim Jordan complained, where's the prime time hearing on the Afghanistan withdrawal¹⁴ last year? And this ties into a larger theme when GOP leaders yesterday said Democrats¹⁵ should be covering other pressing issues. Here's Republican leader Kevin McCarthy.

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KEVIN MCCARTHY: I don't see any prime time hearing set for gas price, for battling inflation, for feeding our children, for making the streets safer.

GRISALES: And several GOP figures made their case on Fox News, which did not air the hearing in full as other networks did.

INSKEEP: Where do the hearings go from here?

GRISALES: Right. We'll see five more over the next two weeks, focusing on Trump's role in the attack from the lie of election fraud to his pressure campaign on state officials and his former vice¹⁶ president, Mike Pence.

INSKEEP: Claudia, thanks so much for your reporting, really appreciate it.

GRISALES: Thank you much.

INSKEEP: Up late last night, up early with us this morning, NPR's Claudia Grisales.

1 trump   

n.王牌，法宝；v.打出王牌，吹喇叭

参考例句：

• He was never able to trump up the courage to have a showdown.他始终鼓不起勇气摊牌。
• The coach saved his star player for a trump card.教练保留他的明星选手，作为他的王牌。

2 transcript   

n.抄本，誊本，副本，肄业证书

参考例句：

• A transcript of the tapes was presented as evidence in court.一份录音带的文字本作为证据被呈交法庭。
• They wouldn't let me have a transcript of the interview.他们拒绝给我一份采访的文字整理稿。

3 investigators   

n.调查者，审查者( investigator的名词复数 )

参考例句：

• This memo could be the smoking gun that investigators have been looking for. 这份备忘录可能是调查人员一直在寻找的证据。
• The team consisted of six investigators and two secretaries. 这个团队由六个调查人员和两个秘书组成。 来自《简明英汉词典》

4 testimony   

n.证词；见证，证明

参考例句：

• The testimony given by him is dubious.他所作的证据是可疑的。
• He was called in to bear testimony to what the police officer said.他被传入为警官所说的话作证。

5 mere   

adj.纯粹的；仅仅，只不过

参考例句：

• That is a mere repetition of what you said before.那不过是重复了你以前讲的话。
• It's a mere waste of time waiting any longer.再等下去纯粹是浪费时间。

6 byline   

n.署名；v.署名

参考例句：

• His byline was absent as well.他的署名也不见了。
• We wish to thank the author of this article which carries no byline.我们要感谢这篇文章的那位没有署名的作者。

7 barricades   

路障，障碍物( barricade的名词复数 )

参考例句：

• The police stormed the barricades the demonstrators had put up. 警察冲破了示威者筑起的街垒。
• Others died young, in prison or on the barricades. 另一些人年轻时就死在监牢里或街垒旁。

8 culmination   

n.顶点；最高潮

参考例句：

• The space race reached its culmination in the first moon walk.太空竞争以第一次在月球行走而达到顶峰。
• It may truly be regarded as the culmination of classical Greek geometry.这确实可以看成是古典希腊几何的登峰造级之作。

9 coup   

n.政变；突然而成功的行动

参考例句：

• The monarch was ousted by a military coup.那君主被军事政变者废黜了。
• That government was overthrown in a military coup three years ago.那个政府在3年前的军事政变中被推翻。

10 overthrow   

v.推翻，打倒，颠覆；n.推翻，瓦解，颠覆

参考例句：

• After the overthrow of the government,the country was in chaos.政府被推翻后，这个国家处于混乱中。
• The overthrow of his plans left him much discouraged.他的计划的失败使得他很气馁。

11 explicit   

adj.详述的，明确的；坦率的；显然的

参考例句：

• She was quite explicit about why she left.她对自己离去的原因直言不讳。
• He avoids the explicit answer to us.他避免给我们明确的回答。

12 assessment   

n.评价；评估；对财产的估价，被估定的金额

参考例句：

• This is a very perceptive assessment of the situation.这是一个对该情况的极富洞察力的评价。
• What is your assessment of the situation?你对时局的看法如何？

13 affected   

adj.不自然的，假装的

参考例句：

• She showed an affected interest in our subject.她假装对我们的课题感到兴趣。
• His manners are affected.他的态度不自然。

14 withdrawal   

n.取回，提款；撤退，撤军；收回，撤销

参考例句：

• The police were forced to make a tactical withdrawal.警方被迫进行战术撤退。
• They insisted upon a withdrawal of the statement and a public apology.他们坚持要收回那些话并公开道歉。

15 democrats   

n.民主主义者，民主人士( democrat的名词复数 )

参考例句：

• The Democrats held a pep rally on Capitol Hill yesterday. 民主党昨天在国会山召开了竞选誓师大会。
• The democrats organize a filibuster in the senate. 民主党党员组织了阻挠议事。 来自《简明英汉词典》

16 vice   

n.坏事；恶习；[pl.]台钳，老虎钳；adj.副的

参考例句：

• He guarded himself against vice.他避免染上坏习惯。
• They are sunk in the depth of vice.他们堕入了罪恶的深渊。