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The House Jan. 6 panel will hear from more witnesses during 2nd hearing

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The House committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol will try to prove that Donald Trump² knew he lost the election, but continued to press false claims about fraud anyway.

A MART?NEZ, HOST:

A key witness will not testify this morning in front of the January 6 committee. The group is trying to prove former President Donald Trump knew he lost but continued to press false claims about election fraud anyway. NPR congressional correspondent Deirdre Walsh joins us now for more. Deirdre, let's start with this new information that Trump's former campaign manager, Bill Stepien, has abruptly³ pulled out of the appearance. What can you tell us?

DEIRDRE WALSH, BYLINE⁴: Good morning. The committee put out a statement this morning citing a family emergency. But our colleague, NPR's Claudia Grisales, has learned that Stepien's wife actually went into labor⁵ this morning. So that qualifies as a family emergency. We should note that the committee has already interviewed Stepien on camera, and a source familiar with the plans tells NPR that the committee is planning to play some video clips of his deposition⁶ instead of his live testimony⁷ this morning. The hearing was supposed to start right around now, but they've delayed it about 30 to 45 minutes.

MART?NEZ: All right. So who will testify?

WALSH: Well, there are going to be two panels. The first one will include Chris Stirewalt. He's a former Fox News political editor. He was fired after Fox News accurately⁸ projected that Joe Biden was the winner of Arizona on election night in 2020. We know that Stirewalt and others at Fox News came under pressure after that call from people at the White House. Stepien was supposed to be on this panel, too, so maybe that's when we would see some of his clips. The second panel includes Ben Ginsberg. He's a longtime Republican election lawyer. People probably remember him from the 2000 recount in Florida. He represented the George W. Bush campaign. The other two witnesses that will be on the second panel are B.J. Pak, a former U.S. attorney from the Northern District in Georgia, and Al Schmidt, a former city commissioner⁹ from Philadelphia. Pak resigned, reportedly under pressure to investigate voter fraud in Florida. Then there was no significant fraud. Schmidt had threats against his security after he defended the election results in Philadelphia.

MART?NEZ: What about the structure of the hearing?

WALSH: Well, the select committee aides say that the chairman, Bennie Thompson, and vice¹⁰ chair Liz Cheney will give statements. Another member of the panel, Zoe Lofgren from California, is going to play a key role in the presentation. And like the first hearing on Thursday night, we're going to see clips of some of the witnesses' taped interviews on camera. Those are people that cooperated with the probe earlier.

MART?NEZ: Tell us how the committee will work to make their case.

WALSH: Well, select committee aides previewed last night that the members are going to walk through the decision by the former president to ignore the will of the voters and declare victory anyway. They're going to start with Election Day and election night 2020. They're going to present evidence from witnesses, as we talked about, both live and taped interviews, that the claims about election irregularities in multiple states were false. They're going to show evidence that people around Trump told him again and again that he lost. And even when the many court cases his campaign pursued failed, he continued to ignore the facts and just kept pushing the big lie.

Unlike the first hearing, which was in primetime, this is a morning hearing starting a little bit later than we expected. But it's more about going back to the Election Day and the weeks leading up to January 6. So we'll have less sort of visual emotional elements about the attack on the Capitol itself. But it's going to be a deep dive on the many people around Trump telling him he lost and him refusing to accept that.

MART?NEZ: NPR congressional correspondent Deirdre Walsh, thanks a lot.

WALSH: Thank you.

1 transcript   

n.抄本，誊本，副本，肄业证书

参考例句：

• A transcript of the tapes was presented as evidence in court.一份录音带的文字本作为证据被呈交法庭。
• They wouldn't let me have a transcript of the interview.他们拒绝给我一份采访的文字整理稿。

2 trump   

n.王牌，法宝；v.打出王牌，吹喇叭

参考例句：

• He was never able to trump up the courage to have a showdown.他始终鼓不起勇气摊牌。
• The coach saved his star player for a trump card.教练保留他的明星选手，作为他的王牌。

3 abruptly   

adv.突然地，出其不意地

参考例句：

• He gestured abruptly for Virginia to get in the car.他粗鲁地示意弗吉尼亚上车。
• I was abruptly notified that a half-hour speech was expected of me.我突然被通知要讲半个小时的话。

4 byline   

n.署名；v.署名

参考例句：

• His byline was absent as well.他的署名也不见了。
• We wish to thank the author of this article which carries no byline.我们要感谢这篇文章的那位没有署名的作者。

5 labor   

n.劳动，努力，工作，劳工；分娩；vi.劳动，努力，苦干；vt.详细分析；麻烦

参考例句：

• We are never late in satisfying him for his labor.我们从不延误付给他劳动报酬。
• He was completely spent after two weeks of hard labor.艰苦劳动两周后，他已经疲惫不堪了。

6 deposition   

n.免职，罢官；作证；沉淀；沉淀物

参考例句：

• It was this issue which led to the deposition of the king.正是这件事导致了国王被废黜。
• This leads to calcium deposition in the blood-vessels.这导致钙在血管中沉积。

7 testimony   

n.证词；见证，证明

参考例句：

• The testimony given by him is dubious.他所作的证据是可疑的。
• He was called in to bear testimony to what the police officer said.他被传入为警官所说的话作证。

8 accurately   

adv.准确地，精确地

参考例句：

• It is hard to hit the ball accurately.准确地击中球很难。
• Now scientists can forecast the weather accurately.现在科学家们能准确地预报天气。

9 commissioner   

n.（政府厅、局、处等部门）专员，长官，委员

参考例句：

• The commissioner has issued a warrant for her arrest.专员发出了对她的逮捕令。
• He was tapped for police commissioner.他被任命为警务处长。

10 vice   

n.坏事；恶习；[pl.]台钳，老虎钳；adj.副的

参考例句：

• He guarded himself against vice.他避免染上坏习惯。
• They are sunk in the depth of vice.他们堕入了罪恶的深渊。