西部落：金牌记者采访影坛美女

Official Transcript¹

JOLIE: I am so inspired by these people. And they are the greatest strength. You know, so, it’s, it's not, er, you know, you have that memory. You have that moment -- I have had it -- where, even just today, I was, you know, breast- feeding, and tired, and thinking, God, I really don't know how I'm going to get myself together to be thinking for this interview. But you think, Jesus, the things these people go through. I owe it to all of them to get myself together, to stop whining² about being tired, and get there and get focused, and, because God, it's the least I can do, with what they live with and what they can, you know, they pull themselves out of the most horrible despair. And they're able to smile and get on with it and survive. And, so, you don't -- it's that same thing. You don't, er, you don't think, poor me, what I have seen. You just think, like, Jesus, thank God I, I'm not experiencing it.

---COOPER: Right. The first time you went to a refugee³ camp, what was that like?

JOLIE: God, it was, it was Sierra Leone. So, it was a different kind of a camp. It wasn’t the, it was, they were still having civil war. And it was a, it was a kind of just this area of people who had been, er, who had had their limbs⁴ cut off from, from the violence. And it was an amputee camp. And it was er, probably to this day the worst camp I have ever seen. And I knew I was changing as a person. I was learning so much about life. And I was, so, in some ways, it was the best moment of my life, because it...

---COOPER: Right.

JOLIE: ... changed me for the better. And I was never going to be never going to be, never going to want for more in my life or be...

(CROSSTALK)

---COOPER: I mean, how did it change you?

JOLIE: I was very er, focused on myself, on my career, on my life, on this -- you know, we have so much and we, we want for other things, and we don't realize how grateful we should be about things. I had been -- done things, you know, er, like most teenagers, you know, hurting myself, or doing things...

---COOPER: Right.

JOLIE: I mean, all those things. You take your own life for granted. And then, suddenly, you see these people who are really fighting something, who are really surviving, who have so much er, pain and loss and things that you have no idea. And, as soon as I got to a phone, I called my mom and just told her how much I loved her. And I was so grateful I knew where she was and so grateful I knew where my brother was, that, that it just changed everything.

---COOPER: Right. And, then, how do you come back? I mean, it's got to be -- it's always -- I have found it always a hard thing, once you're there and you see that, and your eyes are open and, and your heart is open and your mind is open. And then you come back, and especially I mean in this world that you live in, it's got to be such a strange -- it's got to be surreal.

(CROSSTALK)

JOLIE: By the time I, I got on the plane and on the way home, I , I didn't, I knew that I would somehow commit to doing something with these people in my life. And I knew that would be the only way to, to settle it in myself.

---COOPER: And why refugees⁵? Of all the things. I mean, there are so many causes around the world. There are so many problems. Why is it, you're, you're focusing on a problem which is almost intractable. I mean, there, there have always been refugees, internally displaced⁶ people. There almost, likely, will always be.

JOLIE: One, I went to Cambodia, and I learned a lot about the situation there and the refugees there. But, but I got this book on the U.N., because I really liked the idea of the U.N. I know it's not perfect. But loved what -- what it stood for. And, so, I got a book on the U.N. And I was reading about it. And then I got to this chapter on refugees. And it said almost 20 million people are displaced. And it showed pictures of Rwanda and pictures of all these , and I was kind of, and I was just shocked. I thought, how is that possible, that I have known nothing about this, and I'm 20-something years old, and, and there are this many people displaced in the world? So, I knew it was something that had to be discussed, and, and wasn't being discussed. And um, and then, the more I read about it, the more I just thought, they really are the most vulnerable⁷ people in the world. They really don't have an option for, it's not just that they're poor. It's not just that they're hungry. It's not just that, it's that they are in fear of, of, for their lives. They are going to be persecuted⁸ for their race, their religion, their nationality. They, they don't have the protection of their own country. They're somewhere uprooted⁹, without any protection, with their families, relying on somebody to open their doors for someplace for them to lay their head down or get some food or something. And they may not be able to return home for decades.

1 transcript   

n.抄本，誊本，副本，肄业证书

参考例句：

• A transcript of the tapes was presented as evidence in court.一份录音带的文字本作为证据被呈交法庭。
• They wouldn't let me have a transcript of the interview.他们拒绝给我一份采访的文字整理稿。

2 whining   

n. 抱怨，牢骚 v. 哭诉，发牢骚

参考例句：

• That's the way with you whining, puny, pitiful players. 你们这种又爱哭、又软弱、又可怜的赌棍就是这样。
• The dog sat outside the door whining (to be let in). 那条狗坐在门外狺狺叫着（要进来）。

3 refugee   

n.难民，流亡者

参考例句：

• The refugee was condemned to a life of wandering.这个难民注定要过流浪的生活。
• The refugee is suffering for want of food and medical supplies.难民苦于缺少食物和医药用品。

4 limbs   

肢( limb的名词复数 )； 大树枝； 肢体

参考例句：

• For a while, she lost the use of her limbs. 好一会儿她四肢都动弹不得。
• The prisoner's limbs flailed violently because of the pain. 那囚犯因为疼痛，四肢剧烈地抖动着。

5 refugees   

n.避难者，难民( refugee的名词复数 )

参考例句：

• The UN has begun making airdrops of food to refugees. 联合国已开始向难民空投食物。
• They claimed they were political refugees and not economic migrants. 他们宣称自己是政治难民，不是经济移民。

6 displaced   

移动( displace的过去式和过去分词 )； 替换； 移走； 撤职

参考例句：

• Gradually factory workers have been displaced by machines. 工厂的工人已逐渐被机器取代。
• He was displaced by another young man. 他已被另一个年轻人顶替。

7 vulnerable   

adj.易受伤的，脆弱的，易受攻击的

参考例句：

• He volunteered to protect her as she looked so vulnerable.她看上去很脆弱，他就主动去保护她。
• The company is in an economically vulnerable position.该公司目前经济状况不稳定。

8 persecuted   

（尤指宗教或政治信仰的）迫害(~sb. for sth.)( persecute的过去式和过去分词 )； 烦扰，困扰或骚扰某人

参考例句：

• Throughout history, people have been persecuted for their religious beliefs. 人们因宗教信仰而受迫害的情况贯穿了整个历史。
• Members of these sects are ruthlessly persecuted and suppressed. 这些教派的成员遭到了残酷的迫害和镇压。

9 uprooted   

v.把（某物）连根拔起( uproot的过去式和过去分词 )；根除；赶走；把…赶出家园

参考例句：

• Many people were uprooted from their homes by the flood. 水灾令许多人背井离乡。 来自《简明英汉词典》
• The hurricane blew with such force that trees were uprooted. 飓风强烈地刮着，树都被连根拔起了。 来自《简明英汉词典》