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Bruce Lee 'Lost' Interview

an unedited 25 minute interview with Bruce Lee (1940-1973) on the Pierre Berton Show. Recorded on 9th December 1971 in Hong Kong, Bruce Lee ... all ? is seen being himself, speaking candidly1 and informally about his life, his martial2 art beliefs and philosophy. Through the programme Bruce's supreme3 confidence, charisma4 and focus provide a tremendous insight into the young Bruce Lee - the man behind the legend.

Well, you see, uh, the title of that, that particular episode of Longstreet is called "the way of the intercepting5 fist". Now I think the successful ingredient in it was because I was being Bruce lee.

Pierre Berton: Yourself.

Bruce Lee: myself, right. And did that part, just expressed myself, like I say, "honestly expressed myself, at that time. and I, because of that, I brought, you know, favorable mentioning in, like, New York Time, uh which says, like, a chinaman who, incidentally, came off the quite convincingly enough to earn himself a television series and so on and so on and so forth6."

Pierre Berton: can you remember the lines by Stirling Silliphant? To the key lines?

Bruce Lee: He's one of my students, you know that?

Pierre Berton: was he too?

Bruce Lee: yes...

Pierre Berton: Everybody's your student! But you read, there are some lines there /// expressed your philosophy. I don't know if you remember them or not....

Bruce Lee: oh I remember them, I said....

Pierre Berton: That's here...

Bruce Lee: this is what it is, ok?

Pierre Berton: you're talking to Longstreet played by James Franciscus...

Bruce Lee: I said, "empty your mind, be formless, shapeless, like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle. You put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow, or it can crash, be water, my friend, like that, you see?

Pierre Berton: yeah, I see, I got the idea. I got the power behind it...

Bruce Lee: uh-huh....

Pierre Berton: so, now, two things have happened: first there's a pretty good chance that you'll get a TV series in the States called "The Warriors7", in which you'll use what, the martial arts in a western setting?

Bruce Lee: Well, uh, that was the original idea. Now Paramount8, you know I did Longstreet for Paramount, and Paramount wants me to be in a television series. On the other hand, Warner Brother wants me to be in another one. But both of them, I think, they want me to be in a modernized9 type of a thing and they think that western idea is out! Whereas I want....

Pierre Berton: But you would use......You want to do the westerner, right?

Bruce Lee: I want to do / because, you see, I mean, how else can you justify10 all these punching and kicking and violence except in that period of the west? I mean, in nowaday, I mean you don't go around on the street, kicking people or punching people.... because if you do.... (yeah)That's it. I mean, I don't care how "good" you are, I mean, you know.

Pierre Berton: yeah, a gun, but this is true also of the Chinese dramas, which are mainly costume dramas. They're all full of blood and gore11 over here.

Bruce Lee: oh you mean here?

Pierre Berton: yeah.

Bruce Lee: well, unfortunately,... you see, uh, uh, I hope that the picture I am in would either explain why the violence was done, whether right or wrong, or what not, but, unfortunately, pictures, most of them here, are done mainly just for the sake of violence. You know / I mean, like, you know, fighting for 30 minutes /, get stabbed 50 times.

Pierre Berton: but I'm fascinated, here; let me give you your microphone back...

Bruce Lee: I am a martial artist....

Pierre Berton: I'm fascinated, I'm fascinated that you came back to Hong Kong when you were on the verge12 of success in Hollywood, and full of it, and suddenly, on the strength of one picture, you become a superstar. Everybody knows you. You have to take, you have to change your phone number. You get mobbed in the streets. Now what are you gonna do? Are you gonna be able to live in both worlds? Are you gonna be a superstar here or one in the States, or both?

Bruce Lee: Well, let me say this. First of all, uh, uh, the words superstar really turn me off, and I'll tell you why. Because the word "star" man, it's an illusion. It's something what the public call you. You should look upon oneself as an actor, man. I mean you would be very pleased if somebody said "Hey, man, you are a super actor!" it is much better than, you know, superstar. Therefore, I...

Pierre Berton: yes, but you've got to admit that you are a superstar. You're not ///....if you're gonna give me the truth!

Bruce Lee: I am now....I am honestly saying this, okay? Yes, I have been very successful, okay?

Pierre Berton: yeah....

Bruce Lee: but I mean, I think the word "star" is....I mean I do not look upon myself as a star. I really don't. I mean believe me, man, when I say it. I mean I'm not saying it because....

Pierre Berton: what are you gonna do? Let's get back to the question.

Bruce Lee: ok.

Pierre Berton: Are you going to stay in Hong Kong and be famous, or are you gonna go to the United States and be famous, or are you going to try to eat your cake and have it too?

Bruce Lee: I am going to do both because, you see, I have already made up my mind, that in the United States, I think something about the oriental, I mean the true oriental, should be shown.

Pierre Berton: Hollywood sure has packed, hasn't it?

Bruce Lee: you better believe it man. I mean it's always that pigtail, bouncing around, "chopchop," you know? With the eyes slanted13 and all that. And I think that's very, very out of date.

Pierre Berton: is it true that the first job you had was being cast as Charlie Chan's "number one son?"

Bruce Lee: yeah, "number one son."

Pierre Berton: they never made the movie?

Bruce Lee: no, no, no they were gonna make it into like a new Chinese James Bond type of a thing. Now that, you know, "the old man Chan is dead, Charlie is dead, I mean, and his son is carrying on."

Pierre Berton: oh I see. But they didn't do that.

Bruce Lee: no, bad man came along you see. Because and then everything was started to be going into that, you know, that kind of a thing.

Pierre Berton: like the green hornet?

Bruce Lee: yeah.

Pierre Berton: which you were in...but, is it....

Bruce Lee: By the way, I did a really terrible job in that, I have to say.

Pierre Berton: really? You didn't like yourself in that?

Bruce Lee: oh, no.

Pierre Berton: I didn't see it.


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1 candidly YxwzQ1     
adv.坦率地,直率而诚恳地
参考例句:
  • He has stopped taking heroin now,but admits candidly that he will always be a drug addict.他眼下已经不再吸食海洛因了,不过他坦言自己永远都是个瘾君子。
  • Candidly,David,I think you're being unreasonable.大卫,说实话我认为你不讲道理。
2 martial bBbx7     
adj.战争的,军事的,尚武的,威武的
参考例句:
  • The sound of martial music is always inspiring.军乐声总是鼓舞人心的。
  • The officer was convicted of desertion at a court martial.这名军官在军事法庭上被判犯了擅离职守罪。
3 supreme PHqzc     
adj.极度的,最重要的;至高的,最高的
参考例句:
  • It was the supreme moment in his life.那是他一生中最重要的时刻。
  • He handed up the indictment to the supreme court.他把起诉书送交最高法院。
4 charisma uX3ze     
n.(大众爱戴的)领袖气质,魅力
参考例句:
  • He has enormous charisma. He is a giant of a man.他有超凡的个人魅力,是个伟人。
  • I don't have the charisma to pull a crowd this size.我没有那么大的魅力,能吸引这么多人。
5 intercepting 610ea325c8da487d3cb8c3e52877af6a     
截取(技术),截接
参考例句:
  • The police had been intercepting my mail, ie reading it before it was delivered. 警方一直截查我的邮件。
  • We've been intercepting radio transmissions from Moscow. 我们已从莫斯科拦截到无线电信号。
6 forth Hzdz2     
adv.向前;向外,往外
参考例句:
  • The wind moved the trees gently back and forth.风吹得树轻轻地来回摇晃。
  • He gave forth a series of works in rapid succession.他很快连续发表了一系列的作品。
7 warriors 3116036b00d464eee673b3a18dfe1155     
武士,勇士,战士( warrior的名词复数 )
参考例句:
  • I like reading the stories ofancient warriors. 我喜欢读有关古代武士的故事。
  • The warriors speared the man to death. 武士们把那个男子戳死了。
8 paramount fL9xz     
a.最重要的,最高权力的
参考例句:
  • My paramount object is to save the Union and destroy slavery.我的最高目标是拯救美国,摧毁奴隶制度。
  • Nitrogen is of paramount importance to life on earth.氮对地球上的生命至关重要。
9 modernized 4754ec096b71366cfd27a164df163ef2     
使现代化,使适应现代需要( modernize的过去式和过去分词 ); 现代化,使用现代方法
参考例句:
  • By 1985 the entire railway network will have been modernized. 等到1985年整个铁路网就实现现代化了。
  • He set about rebuilding France, and made it into a brilliant-looking modernized imperialism. 他试图重建法国,使它成为一项表面华丽的现代化帝业。
10 justify j3DxR     
vt.证明…正当(或有理),为…辩护
参考例句:
  • He tried to justify his absence with lame excuses.他想用站不住脚的借口为自己的缺席辩解。
  • Can you justify your rude behavior to me?你能向我证明你的粗野行为是有道理的吗?
11 gore gevzd     
n.凝血,血污;v.(动物)用角撞伤,用牙刺破;缝以补裆;顶
参考例句:
  • The fox lay dying in a pool of gore.狐狸倒在血泊中奄奄一息。
  • Carruthers had been gored by a rhinoceros.卡拉瑟斯被犀牛顶伤了。
12 verge gUtzQ     
n.边,边缘;v.接近,濒临
参考例句:
  • The country's economy is on the verge of collapse.国家的经济已到了崩溃的边缘。
  • She was on the verge of bursting into tears.她快要哭出来了。
13 slanted 628a904d3b8214f5fc02822d64c58492     
有偏见的; 倾斜的
参考例句:
  • The sun slanted through the window. 太阳斜照进窗户。
  • She had slanted brown eyes. 她有一双棕色的丹凤眼。
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