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美国国家公共电台 NPR Greg Kinnear's 'Phil' Is Depressed, And Then Obsessed

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Greg Kinnear's 'Phil' Is Depressed1, And Then Obsessed2

AUDIE CORNISH, HOST:

All right. I want to begin this story with a note. The following conversation about Greg Kinnear's new movie "Phil" touches on the issue of suicide. It may not be appropriate for all listeners. In it, Kinnear plays Phil, a Portland dentist slogging through life. One day, he sees a patient who seems to have it all - a happy family, an interesting job. Then he hears the patient has taken his own life, and Phil becomes obsessed.

(SOUNDBITE OF FILM, "PHIL")

GREG KINNEAR: (As Phil) Michael Fisk was this guy who I thought had figured it all out, and then he killed himself. I need to find the reason why.

CORNISH: The movie is Greg Kinnear's directorial debut3. He started his on-camera career as the host of the humorous entertainment show "Talk Soup." He became famous for his roles in romantic comedies like "You've Got Mail" and the poignant4 "Little Miss Sunshine." So I started off by asking, why jump into directing on a topic as difficult as suicide?

KINNEAR: I kind of was kicking the tires of directing. And I had a few stories that bounced around, but it really wasn't until I was quite struck with Stephen Mazur's script. He had a way of telling - dealing5 with the subject matter of suicide, which had affected6 me and my life through some people that were close to me. And I found this script had a strangely life-affirming quality to it.

CORNISH: Can we talk about that? Because for - to start directing out of the gate and take on a topic like this is no small thing. Can you talk about what your reservations were in taking on the topic of suicide and how you thought you wanted to approach it?

KINNEAR: Yeah, no big secret there. I mean, I think anybody who has known anyone who took their life, you know, you're shocked and sidelined by that. And there's always this nagging7 question why in the sense of people who you thought seemingly had good lives going. And I guess that idea and that subject had always kind of stayed with me. And this is all happening, you know, in a window of time where this issue of suicide is, you know, clearly an epidemic8.

CORNISH: Fundamentally, the character of Phil, he believes everyone is enjoying life in a way that he isn't - right? - like, kind of everyone has it better. And how did you think about that? Because I would think as someone who is an actor - right? - you've had a kind of close-up view of celebrity9 life...

KINNEAR: Sure.

CORNISH: ...Which people tend to envy.

KINNEAR: Absolutely. Listen. There's another thing that's happened. You know, it's interesting that when you think of the rise of these numbers and then you think about the influence of social media and these gadgets10 that we carry around that basically mirror the lives and incredible experiences - whether they're real or not - of those around us. Look. It can't be healthy. And there is an element of smoke and mirrors and of misrepresentation in the business I work in. You know, it's part of the charm of it.

CORNISH: Not just an element, it's one of the defining qualities, right?

KINNEAR: Right.

CORNISH: Frankly11, I mean...

KINNEAR: Absolutely. It is obviously a misrepresentation of the truth because we all have, you know...

CORNISH: Right.

KINNEAR: ...Complicated lives. And there's the ups and the downs. But our business in particular stands out as one that just shows off the shiny glow of good things.

CORNISH: There've been times I've seen quotes where you've said I'm not a movie star - right? - or, like, I'm not - and it seems like you've always had a jaundiced view of this world.

KINNEAR: Wow, we've moved into the sweaty portion of the interview where I have to lie down on a couch to answer this. I guess I have always felt a little bit like an outsider in the business. You know, it is strange that I was - I kind of went from "Talk Soup" to film, but I fill out a place. I mean, I look around, I do. I think of movie stars being so comfortable being movie stars. And there's people who are very comfortable at that, very good at it. And I wouldn't say that I've necessarily had a great knack12 for it.

CORNISH: When I think of you as a character actor, I think of some of the characters you've played. As an actor over the years, what has been your type? Like, how have you been boxed in at times, and how do you try and play against it?

KINNEAR: I certainly, coming out of, you know, "Sabrina" and early movies, was offered a lot of smiley...

CORNISH: Romantic...

KINNEAR: ...Romantic comedies. And I probably did more than I should have when I started. I don't know. You know, listen. I'm Scotch-Irish, you know? I want to fight everything. There is that in me. They tell me to go left. I want to go right. If they're going right, I want to go left. I think I've just inherently kicked and bucked13 the other way. When there was a clear path for me, I got uncomfortable. And I still feel that way.

CORNISH: Fundamentally, "Phil" - right? - this movie is about a person who is looking back, who's trying to make sense of things. Are you at that point in your life? And if so, how are you feeling about it?

KINNEAR: Well, I feel very good about - I had a - just had a birthday. And I have three daughters, a wonderful wife. And obviously, my career is important as well. But when you ask me when I look back generally, am I happy, you know, are there movies or TV shows or things that I might have regretted? Of course. But that's never where my mind goes. I tend to go to my life. And generally, I feel like I've been incredibly fortunate and incredibly lucky.

CORNISH: Well, Greg Kinnear, thank you so much for speaking with us, telling us about this film and talking a little bit about your career. Much appreciated.

KINNEAR: Thank you very much.

CORNISH: And we want to note, if you or someone you know may be considering suicide, contact the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 1-800-273-8255 or the Crisis Text Line by texting 741741.


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1 depressed xu8zp9     
adj.沮丧的,抑郁的,不景气的,萧条的
参考例句:
  • When he was depressed,he felt utterly divorced from reality.他心情沮丧时就感到完全脱离了现实。
  • His mother was depressed by the sad news.这个坏消息使他的母亲意志消沉。
2 obsessed 66a4be1417f7cf074208a6d81c8f3384     
adj.心神不宁的,鬼迷心窍的,沉迷的
参考例句:
  • He's obsessed by computers. 他迷上了电脑。
  • The fear of death obsessed him throughout his old life. 他晚年一直受着死亡恐惧的困扰。
3 debut IxGxy     
n.首次演出,初次露面
参考例句:
  • That same year he made his Broadway debut, playing a suave radio journalist.在那同一年里,他初次在百老汇登台,扮演一个温文而雅的电台记者。
  • The actress made her debut in the new comedy.这位演员在那出新喜剧中首次登台演出。
4 poignant FB1yu     
adj.令人痛苦的,辛酸的,惨痛的
参考例句:
  • His lyrics are as acerbic and poignant as they ever have been.他的歌词一如既往的犀利辛辣。
  • It is especially poignant that he died on the day before his wedding.他在婚礼前一天去世了,这尤其令人悲恸。
5 dealing NvjzWP     
n.经商方法,待人态度
参考例句:
  • This store has an excellent reputation for fair dealing.该商店因买卖公道而享有极高的声誉。
  • His fair dealing earned our confidence.他的诚实的行为获得我们的信任。
6 affected TzUzg0     
adj.不自然的,假装的
参考例句:
  • She showed an affected interest in our subject.她假装对我们的课题感到兴趣。
  • His manners are affected.他的态度不自然。
7 nagging be0b69d13a0baed63cc899dc05b36d80     
adj.唠叨的,挑剔的;使人不得安宁的v.不断地挑剔或批评(某人)( nag的现在分词 );不断地烦扰或伤害(某人);无休止地抱怨;不断指责
参考例句:
  • Stop nagging—I'll do it as soon as I can. 别唠叨了—我会尽快做的。
  • I've got a nagging pain in my lower back. 我后背下方老是疼。 来自《简明英汉词典》
8 epidemic 5iTzz     
n.流行病;盛行;adj.流行性的,流传极广的
参考例句:
  • That kind of epidemic disease has long been stamped out.那种传染病早已绝迹。
  • The authorities tried to localise the epidemic.当局试图把流行病限制在局部范围。
9 celebrity xcRyQ     
n.名人,名流;著名,名声,名望
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  • Tom found himself something of a celebrity. 汤姆意识到自己已小有名气了。
  • He haunted famous men, hoping to get celebrity for himself. 他常和名人在一起, 希望借此使自己获得名气。
10 gadgets 7239f3f3f78d7b7d8bbb906e62f300b4     
n.小机械,小器具( gadget的名词复数 )
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  • Certainly. The idea is not to have a house full of gadgets. 当然。设想是房屋不再充满小配件。 来自超越目标英语 第4册
  • This meant more gadgets and more experiments. 这意味着要设计出更多的装置,做更多的实验。 来自英汉非文学 - 科学史
11 frankly fsXzcf     
adv.坦白地,直率地;坦率地说
参考例句:
  • To speak frankly, I don't like the idea at all.老实说,我一点也不赞成这个主意。
  • Frankly speaking, I'm not opposed to reform.坦率地说,我不反对改革。
12 knack Jx9y4     
n.诀窍,做事情的灵巧的,便利的方法
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  • He has a knack of teaching arithmetic.他教算术有诀窍。
  • Making omelettes isn't difficult,but there's a knack to it.做煎蛋饼并不难,但有窍门。
13 bucked 4085b682da6f1272318ebf4527d338eb     
adj.快v.(马等)猛然弓背跃起( buck的过去式和过去分词 );抵制;猛然震荡;马等尥起后蹄跳跃
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  • When he tried to ride the horse, it bucked wildly. 当他试图骑上这匹马时,它突然狂暴地跃了起来。 来自《简明英汉词典》
  • The plane bucked a strong head wind. 飞机顶着强烈的逆风飞行。 来自《现代英汉综合大词典》
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