PBS高端访谈:全职工作和朋克摇滚

HARI SREENIVASAN: Not every musician makes a living solely¹ from playing music. In Chicago, a punk rock band called The Bollweevils has been balancing their conventional day jobs with their unconventional hobby for over two decades. Reporter Jay Shefsky from Chicago PBS Station WTTW has their story.

JAY SHEFSKY: Most Wednesday nights, a longtime Chicago punk band called The Bollweevils rehearses in a northwest side basement. Punk Rock is fast and loud with often angry and rebellious² lyrics³. But rebellion can take many forms. For The Bollweevils, you could say it's also in how they live the rest of their lives. Like lead singer Daryl Wilson, Doctor Daryl Wilson. He's an ER physician at a suburban⁴ Chicago hospital.

DARYL WILSON: If you think about, emergency medicine is kind of a punk rocky kind of thing. It's kinda real, it's raw. And, I think, punk rock is raw too, it's something that, you know, hits you in the face.

JAY SHEFSKY: At first, his colleagues were a little surprised.

DARYL WILSON: They'd look at it and go "you don't have a hobby like just playing squash or tennis or something like that?" and it's like,

"No, I jump off of stages."

JAY SHEFSKY: Daryl says he started listening to punk rock in middle school when his parents' marriage broke up.

DARYL WILSON: But I found the aggressive nature of the music was a good way to release energy in a way that wasn't dangerous. You could, you know, kinda slam dance and, you know, pretend you're fighting with people that you weren't fighting. And the music was cool. I liked the music; it had a message behind it, too. A lot of it was political, so I liked it.

JAY SHEFSKY: At first, Daryl was just a fan going to concerts. Then guitarist Ken⁵ Fitzner recruited him in 1989. The Bollweevils were just getting started.

KEN FITZNER: We just thought he looked cool at the show, and we had just gone to a bunch of shows with him so it was like "all right, do

you want to be in our band? Here's our tape, we practice next Sunday." And that was it.

JAY SHEFSKY: Wait, so you liked his look? Did you ask him if he could sing?

JAY SHEFSKY: No.

KEN FITZNER: No, I had no idea if he could sing whatsoever⁶. Not at all!

JAY SHEFSKY: Some of the other Bollweevils also have jobs that might surprise you.

JAY SHEFSKY: Drummer Pete Mumford is a college administrator⁷. Bassist Pete Mittler is an electrician and Ken Fitzner? He's a Chicago Public School principal.

KEN FITZNER: My passion is being a principal. That is really my passion. It gives me such satisfaction. And where the punk rock comes in, is that becomes an outlet⁸ and a place for me to be a little bit more crazy, a little bit different.

JAY SHEFSKY: He says he used to hide it at work. But, now, he sees it as setting a valuable example.

KEN FITZNER: My life growing up in the city was tough as well, much like these kids' are here. And I think it's really important that they have something that lets them express themselves. Having that outlet is probably one of the best things that's ever happened to me.

JAY SHEFSKY: But when your music is all about rebellion and you've got a successful mainstream⁹ job, are you still a rebel? Daryl Wilson says it's all about being true to yourself.

JAY SHEFSKY: I mean, I'm a 6 foot 4", 230-pound guy with dreadlocks who walks into a room and says "I'm your physician." People have this kind of staunch stereotype¹⁰ of what a physician is, too, and you know, or what a person who looks like me is. And that's the whole point. I wanted to do all those things. I wanted to be a punk rock singer. I wanted to be a physician. I think that I was just rebelling against the idea of people trying to put labels on me.

JAY SHEFSKY: The Bollweevils may practice in a basement, but they're a pretty big deal in the Chicago punk scene. Lots of records, national tours. Recently, they played at a festival in England.

DARYL WILSON: The bottom line is, just, to be happy you've got to do what you want. I mean, that's the thing. It's like, I'm here with my best friends and this is one of the things, like you know, if we played in front of five people or 500 people or 5,000 people, I still have my best friends.

KEN FITZNER: Just for the record, even though it's all cool to be with friends, I would prefer to play for 5,000 people.

哈里·斯瑞尼瓦桑：不是每位音乐家都可以只靠玩儿音乐就能糊口。芝加哥有一只朋克摇滚乐队，名为The Bollweevils。过去20年来，这支乐队一直在白天的传统全职工作和自己非主流的爱好之间平衡。下面请听杰伊·塞夫斯基从芝加哥通向未来的世界之窗（WTTW）发回的PBS报道。

杰伊·塞夫斯基：大多数周三晚上，历久弥新的芝加哥朋克乐队The Bollweevils都会在西北部的地下室里彩排。朋克摇滚节奏很快，声音很大，歌词通常常都会表达愤怒或者叛逆的情绪。但叛逆可以多种形式展现。对于The Bollweevils来说，朋克摇滚是他们一生不变的元素。比如主唱达里尔·威尔逊就是如此，他本人是一名博士。在芝加哥郊区的一家医院做急诊室医生。

达里尔·威尔逊：细想一下，会觉得急诊医学就是朋克摇滚风，因为它很真实，也很直接。我认为，朋克摇滚也是直接的，是那种扑面而来的感觉。

杰伊·塞夫斯基：起初，威尔逊的同事都很震惊。

达里尔·威尔逊：他们听了后，会说“你没有打壁球或者网球之类的习惯吗？”我会说，“不，我会直接跳下舞台。”

杰伊·塞夫斯基：达里尔表示，自己在中学的时候就开始听朋克摇滚了，当时他的父母婚姻破裂了。

达里尔·威尔逊：但我发现，朋克摇滚的风格很有感染性，用这个方法可以很好地释放能量，但又不是以负面的方式。可以尽情舞蹈，可以将自己放在与别人抗争的情绪中，不管现实中是否如此。朋克摇滚很酷，我很喜欢。还可以将想要传达的信息放入其中。很多信息都是有政治色彩的，我很喜欢。

杰伊·塞夫斯基：起初，达里尔也是朋克摇滚的粉丝，经常会去听演唱会。然后，1989年，吉他手肯恩·菲茨纳招他入伙。于是，The Bollweevils开始起步了。

肯恩·菲茨纳：我们当时只是觉得，演出时看到他很酷。我们还跟他一起去看了一些演出。然后就问他“你想加入我们乐队吗？”这是我们的磁带，我们下周六一起彩排吧。所以我们乐队就这样成立了。

杰伊·塞夫斯基：等等，你们当时很喜欢他的样貌是吗？你们当时有问他会不会唱歌吗？

杰伊·塞夫斯基：没有。

肯恩·菲茨纳：没有，我不知道他会不会唱歌，根本就没问啊！

杰伊·塞夫斯基：Bollweevils乐队的其他成员所做的工作可能也会让你大吃一惊。

杰伊·塞夫斯基：鼓手皮特·芒福德是大学的管理人员。贝斯手皮特·米特勒是电工，而肯恩·菲茨纳是芝加哥公立学校的校长。

肯恩·菲茨纳：成为校长是我的热情所在，我真地喜欢做这件事。工作让我获得满足感。当我认识朋克摇滚后，这里就成了一个出口，一个让我可以稍微疯狂、有稍许不同的地方。

杰伊·塞夫斯基：他说自己以前在工作场合是会隐藏自己的，但现在，他觉得这是以身作则。

肯恩·菲茨纳：我在城市里长大的经历也很艰难，很像这里的很多孩子。我觉得很重要的是：他们有某种东西来让他们表达自己。有这样一个出口是我所经历的最棒的事情。

杰伊·塞夫斯基：但如果一个人的音乐只与叛逆有关，那么这就是一份成功的主流工作。您现在还是这个风格吗？达里尔·威尔逊表示，这在于一个人是否对自己诚实。

杰伊·塞夫斯基：我的意思是，我身高6英尺4英寸，体重230磅，扎着雷鬼头，进屋跟患者说“我是你的医生。”人们对医生的固有印象就是如此，他们觉得像我这样的人就应该是这样。这是基本观点。这些都是我想做的事情，我想做朋克摇滚歌手。同时，我也想做医生。我觉得我想要叛逆的观点是大家在我身上贴标签。

杰伊·塞夫斯基：这个乐队排练的场合虽然在地下室，但他们对于芝加哥的朋克音乐而言至关重要。他们出了很多唱片，进行过多次全球巡演。最近，他们在英格兰的一次节日上进行了演出。

达里尔·威尔逊：我的底线是——要快乐，就要做想做的事情，这是关键。就像是我跟我最好的伙伴们在这里，这是其一。不管我们是在50人、500人还是5000人面前表演，我都是跟最好的伙伴们在一起。

肯恩·菲茨纳：不过，虽然跟朋友在一起很好，但我更喜欢在5000人面前演奏。

1 solely   

adv.仅仅，唯一地

参考例句：

• Success should not be measured solely by educational achievement.成功与否不应只用学业成绩来衡量。
• The town depends almost solely on the tourist trade.这座城市几乎完全靠旅游业维持。

2 rebellious   

adj.造反的，反抗的，难控制的

参考例句：

• They will be in danger if they are rebellious.如果他们造反，他们就要发生危险。
• Her reply was mild enough,but her thoughts were rebellious.她的回答虽然很温和，但她的心里十分反感。

3 lyrics   

n.歌词

参考例句：

• music and lyrics by Rodgers and Hart 由罗杰斯和哈特作词作曲
• The book contains lyrics and guitar tablatures for over 100 songs. 这本书有100多首歌的歌词和吉他奏法谱。

4 suburban   

adj.城郊的，在郊区的

参考例句：

• Suburban shopping centers were springing up all over America. 效区的商业中心在美国如雨后春笋般地兴起。
• There's a lot of good things about suburban living.郊区生活是有许多优点。

5 ken   

n.视野，知识领域

参考例句：

• Such things are beyond my ken.我可不懂这些事。
• Abstract words are beyond the ken of children.抽象的言辞超出小孩所理解的范围.

6 whatsoever   

adv.（用于否定句中以加强语气）任何；pron.无论什么

参考例句：

• There's no reason whatsoever to turn down this suggestion.没有任何理由拒绝这个建议。
• All things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you,do ye even so to them.你想别人对你怎样，你就怎样对人。

7 administrator   

n.经营管理者，行政官员

参考例句：

• The role of administrator absorbed much of Ben's energy.行政职务耗掉本很多精力。
• He has proved himself capable as administrator.他表现出管理才能。

8 outlet   

n.出口/路；销路；批发商店；通风口；发泄

参考例句：

• The outlet of a water pipe was blocked.水管的出水口堵住了。
• Running is a good outlet for his energy.跑步是他发泄过剩精力的好方法。

9 mainstream   

n.（思想或行为的）主流；adj.主流的

参考例句：

• Their views lie outside the mainstream of current medical opinion.他们的观点不属于当今医学界观点的主流。
• Polls are still largely reflects the mainstream sentiment.民调还在很大程度上反映了社会主流情绪。

10 stereotype   

n.固定的形象，陈规，老套，旧框框

参考例句：

• He's my stereotype of a schoolteacher.他是我心目中的典型教师。
• There's always been a stereotype about successful businessmen.人们对于成功商人一直都有一种固定印象。