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 　　MARGARET WARNER:Next tonight: a look at the future of immigration reform.

　　Ray Suarez has our story.

　　RAY SUAREZ:Members of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus¹ had a clear message today in two languages: Now is the time for comprehensive immigration reform, after years on the back burner.

　　Illinois Democrat² Luis Gutierrez:

　　REP. LUIS GUTIERREZ,D-Ill.: For years and years, our caucus been fighting for immigrants to our nation. For years, I have asked, we have asked for one simple thing fairness, fairness for people who work hard, pay taxes, and make America a better place for all of us. And what was the result? A Congress that refused to act.

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　　RAY SUAREZ:The issue was also largely ignored during the campaign. But the president's reelection was bolstered³ in part by the 71 percent of Hispanic voters who supported him. Now Republicans have joined in promoting reform.

　　Yesterday, retiring Senators Kay Bailey Hutchison and Jon Kyl introduced the Achieve Act for young undocumented immigrants.

　　SEN. KAY BAILEY HUTCHISON,R-Tex.: There is a very time-sensitive issue of these young people who have gone to schools in America. And we think the best thing that we can do to utilize⁴ their talents and the education they have received is to give them a legal status.

　　RAY SUAREZ:The bill would grant legal residence for those who pursue higher education or serve the U.S. military. Unlike the DREAM Act, which failed to get through Congress, the Achieve Act wouldn't provide a path to full citizenship⁵. And that is a sticking point for most Democrats⁶.

　　New Jersey⁷ Sen. Bob Menendez:

　　SEN. ROBERT MENENDEZ,D-N.J.: They problem with the Achieve Act is, it doesn't achieve the dream of the young people who aspire⁸ to fully⁹ participate in American life, who only know one flag that they pledge allegiance to. That is the flag of the United States.

　　RAY SUAREZ:Still, Sen. Kyl said Tuesday, the Republican bill can be a first step toward broader measures.

　　SEN. JON KYL, R-Ariz.: It will begin the discussion. And it may be that it will lead to a series of smaller steps next year, rather than comprehensive reform. But, either way, I think focusing on certain specific issues like this preliminarily is a good way to understand what the issues are and to try to build a consensus¹⁰ over time.

　　RAY SUAREZ:And either way, immigration reform appears to be back on the agenda for the new Congress, opening for business in January.

　　Where does the immigration debate go from here?

　　We get the views of two members of Congress. Kay Bailey Hutchison is a Republican senator from Texas. And Luis Gutierrez is a Democratic congressman¹¹ from Illinois.

　　Senator, how does your and Sen. Kyl's new Achieve proposal differ from the DREAM Act that failed to pass the Senate at the end of 2010?

　　KAY BAILEY HUTCHISON:Our proposal gives legality to those young people who come here, they have known no other country but America because they were here early. And they're going to get an education or they're going to get a vocational degree of some kind or they're going to serve in the military. And they will have a legal status.

　　Where it differs is that, unless they decide to pursue citizenship, it is not an automatic.

　　If they do pursue citizenship, which they can under the law as it is today, they would go behind the people who are already in line, so that there is a fairness in the system to those who have waited for years to become regularized, but they will have a preference in that they will be here legally, can work, and build up all of their seniority while they are waiting in the line.

　　RAY SUAREZ:And, Senator, would you say the prospects¹² for a bill of this kind have changed, have gotten better since the election?

　　KAY BAILEY HUTCHISON:Yes, I do think that people are now realizing that we have got to have immigration reform.

　　And speaking only for myself, I believe that doing immigration reform in pieces is going to be achievable, rather than trying to do comprehensive, which gets bogged¹³ down in extraneous¹⁴ issues that make it very hard to come to a total, big conclusion.

　　RAY SUAREZ:Rep. Gutierrez, today, the Hispanic Caucus laid out a set of principles it would want to see in any immigration reform bills. Given what you and the caucus members said today, is the senator's achieve proposal at least a place to begin the conversation?

　　LUIS GUTIERREZ:You know, it is a step in the right direction. It takes us away from a Republican platform and a candidate for president, Romney, who said we should just have them self-deport¹⁵, that is, pack your bags and leave.

　　Millions of American citizen children have undocumented parents. Thousands of Americans are married to undocumented spouses¹⁶.

　　Look, it's a destructive force, our broken immigration system. But I don't think that—I think, so, in that sense, it's a step in the right direction because she's saying, what the senator is saying and the proposal is saying is, they can stay.

　　It's a realization¹⁷ that they're not simply going to disappear one day and leave the country, and that they have a rightful place in the United States of America. What we'd like to say and one of our principles as we have articulated today is we want them to be citizens of the United States and we want them to have a clear path to that.

　　Now, I understand when the senator says that they should be put at the back of the line. I get that part. Look, that's why you have to do comprehensive immigration reform, because under comprehensive immigration reform, we say there should be no backlog¹⁸.

　　There should be no permanent resident, there should be no citizen who has petitioned for their wife or their husband or their minor¹⁹ children or their brothers and sisters. Those people should come and be reunited.

　　And once we take care of that backlog, obviously, then we can put these young people—but these young people should have a special place in the line, because, as the senator says, this is the only country they have ever known.

　　And, you know, they swear allegiance. They love this country. It's the only one they know. And in the end, we have said we will give them a pathway to stay permanently²⁰ the United States if they will serve in the military.

　　The highest tax any citizen of any nation can pay, any individual can pay to a nation is that of their blood and their limb. And if they're willing to do that, we should give them a clear pathway to American citizenship, because that's what they really deserve.

　　RAY SUAREZ:Well, Senator, just a moment ago, you were talking about doing this in a phased way, piece by piece. It sounds like the Hispanic Caucus is looking for comprehensive reform.

　　And, earlier today, Sen. Menendez says the community speaks with one voice on this issue. Is comprehensive reform too heavy a lift, do you think, in the next Congress?

　　KAY BAILEY HUTCHISON:You know, Ray, I was in on the negotiations²¹ which went on for months with Sen. Kennedy and Sen. McCain and others.

　　We tried very hard to come up with a balanced, comprehensive immigration reform. And what we found is that if you took one step—say you're talking about the DREAM Act or the young people who are here and we want to have them achieve—you take that and you are working on that, but then someone who is for you on that, but they don't like what you have done on the side of border control, or more DPS agents or more of the Border Patrol agents.

　　And then you have another set that wants something for ag workers. And they won't like something you did in another section. And we found it impossible to come together in a comprehensive way, and it fell apart.

　　That's why I think a step-by-step approach is the one that will be more successful, because the more ways that you have to deal with the solitary²² issue—and, in this case, it's the most time-sensitive issue because it's these young people who have American educations, they have graduated from high school, they want to go to college, they want to be a part of our system, they want to be a part of the community. We want them with that education to get there.

　　But if you start then going beyond that particular area, you get bogged down, and we're not going to be able to help them.

　　I think you could then go to the next phase, which would be Border Patrol or border security or work visas in other areas like high-tech²³.

　　But I do think a step-by-step approach can be successful, where I don't think comprehensive is going to be able to be done, especially in this environment, to be honest.

　　RAY SUAREZ:Representative, you just heard the senator lay out why time is of the essence. Is time also of the essence in a political sense? Do you have to do this in calendar '13, before the Congress gets caught up in the midterms for 2014?

　　LUIS GUTIERREZ:Look, tomorrow, the next session, the next month, the next term, those aren't words. It's now.

　　The Latino community spoke²⁴ clearly and eloquently²⁵ and forcefully and in a unified²⁶ fashion across this nation. And I say to my colleagues in the Republican Party it is time that we listen to the electorate²⁷. And they spoke very clearly.

　　Look, a couple of things just very quickly. Every day, we deport 1,000 people. That's 30,000 a month. Let me just make it clear. Tens of thousands of people are going to be deported²⁸ this year who have American citizen children. They can't wait for piecemeal²⁹. We have a stem industry that needs workers today.

　　Think about all this talk about uncertainty³⁰ and uncertainty and how that has an impact, a negative impact on our economy. Let's take the uncertainty away from 12 million people and say, get in line, get right with the law, learn English, pay your taxes, and one day you can be an American citizen.

　　And you know what those 12 million people will do when the uncertainty in their life—they will buy that house, they will buy that car. They will expand the business they're already in, and they will pay more taxes and be right with the law.

　　Our nation cannot continue to have millions of people and we don't know who they are. I want them registered with the country, and I want them fulfilling the responsibility that I and the senator fulfill³¹ as citizens of this nation. It is their responsibility, and we should give them that opportunity.

　　RAY SUAREZ:Luis Gutierrez of Illinois, Kay Bailey Hutchison of Texas, thanks to you both.

　　LUIS GUTIERREZ:Thank you.

　　KAY BAILEY HUTCHISON:Thank you.

1 caucus   

n.秘密会议；干部会议；v.（参加）干部开会议

参考例句：

• This multi-staged caucus takes several months.这个多级会议常常历时好几个月。
• It kept the Democratic caucus from fragmenting.它也使得民主党的核心小组避免了土崩瓦解的危险。

2 democrat   

n.民主主义者，民主人士；民主党党员

参考例句：

• The Democrat and the Public criticized each other.民主党人和共和党人互相攻击。
• About two years later,he was defeated by Democrat Jimmy Carter.大约两年后，他被民主党人杰米卡特击败。

3 bolstered   

v.支持( bolster的过去式和过去分词 )；支撑；给予必要的支持；援助

参考例句：

• He bolstered his plea with new evidence. 他举出新的证据来支持他的抗辩。 来自《现代英汉综合大词典》
• The data must be bolstered by inferences and indirect estimates of varying degrees of reliability. 这些资料必须借助于推理及可靠程度不同的间接估计。 来自辞典例句

4 utilize   

vt.使用，利用

参考例句：

• The cook will utilize the leftover ham bone to make soup.厨师要用吃剩的猪腿骨做汤。
• You must utilize all available resources.你必须利用一切可以得到的资源。

5 citizenship   

n.市民权，公民权，国民的义务(身份)

参考例句：

• He was born in Sweden,but he doesn't have Swedish citizenship.他在瑞典出生，但没有瑞典公民身分。
• Ten years later,she chose to take Australian citizenship.十年后，她选择了澳大利亚国籍。

6 democrats   

n.民主主义者，民主人士( democrat的名词复数 )

参考例句：

• The Democrats held a pep rally on Capitol Hill yesterday. 民主党昨天在国会山召开了竞选誓师大会。
• The democrats organize a filibuster in the senate. 民主党党员组织了阻挠议事。 来自《简明英汉词典》

7 jersey   

n.运动衫

参考例句：

• He wears a cotton jersey when he plays football.他穿运动衫踢足球。
• They were dressed alike in blue jersey and knickers.他们穿着一致，都是蓝色的运动衫和灯笼短裤。

8 aspire   

vi.(to，after)渴望，追求，有志于

参考例句：

• Living together with you is what I aspire toward in my life.和你一起生活是我一生最大的愿望。
• I aspire to be an innovator not a follower.我迫切希望能变成个开创者而不是跟随者。

9 fully   

adv.完全地，全部地，彻底地；充分地

参考例句：

• The doctor asked me to breathe in,then to breathe out fully.医生让我先吸气，然后全部呼出。
• They soon became fully integrated into the local community.他们很快就完全融入了当地人的圈子。

10 consensus   

n.(意见等的)一致，一致同意，共识

参考例句：

• Can we reach a consensus on this issue?我们能在这个问题上取得一致意见吗？
• What is the consensus of opinion at the afternoon meeting?下午会议上一致的意见是什么？

11 Congressman   

n.（美）国会议员

参考例句：

• He related several anecdotes about his first years as a congressman.他讲述自己初任议员那几年的几则轶事。
• The congressman is meditating a reply to his critics.这位国会议员正在考虑给他的批评者一个答复。

12 prospects   

n.希望，前途(恒为复数)

参考例句：

• There is a mood of pessimism in the company about future job prospects. 公司中有一种对工作前景悲观的情绪。
• They are less sanguine about the company's long-term prospects. 他们对公司的远景不那么乐观。

13 bogged   

adj.陷于泥沼的v.（使）陷入泥沼， （使）陷入困境( bog的过去式和过去分词 )；妨碍，阻碍

参考例句：

• The professor bogged down in the middle of his speech. 教授的演讲只说了一半便讲不下去了。 来自《现代英汉综合大词典》
• The tractor is bogged down in the mud. 拖拉机陷入了泥沼。 来自《简明英汉词典》

14 extraneous   

adj.体外的；外来的；外部的

参考例句：

• I can choose to ignore these extraneous thoughts.我可以选择无视这些外来的想法。
• Reductant from an extraneous source is introduced.外来的还原剂被引进来。

15 deport   

vt.驱逐出境

参考例句：

• We deport aliens who slip across our borders.我们把偷渡入境的外国人驱逐出境。
• More than 240 England football fans are being deported from Italy following riots last night.昨晚的骚乱发生后有240多名英格兰球迷被驱逐出意大利。

16 spouses   

n.配偶，夫或妻( spouse的名词复数 )

参考例句：

• Jobs are available for spouses on campus and in the community. 校园里和社区里有配偶可做的工作。 来自辞典例句
• An astonishing number of spouses-most particularly in the upper-income brackets-have no close notion of their husbands'paychecks. 相当大一部分妇女——特别在高收入阶层——并不很了解他们丈夫的薪金。 来自辞典例句

17 realization   

n.实现；认识到，深刻了解

参考例句：

• We shall gladly lend every effort in our power toward its realization.我们将乐意为它的实现而竭尽全力。
• He came to the realization that he would never make a good teacher.他逐渐认识到自己永远不会成为好老师。

18 backlog   

n.积压未办之事

参考例句：

• It will take a month to clear the backlog of work.要花一个月的时间才能清理完积压的工作。
• Investment is needed to reduce the backlog of repairs.需要投资来減轻积压的维修工作。

19 minor   

adj.较小(少)的，较次要的；n.辅修学科；vi.辅修

参考例句：

• The young actor was given a minor part in the new play.年轻的男演员在这出新戏里被分派担任一个小角色。
• I gave him a minor share of my wealth.我把小部分财产给了他。

20 permanently   

adv.永恒地，永久地，固定不变地

参考例句：

• The accident left him permanently scarred.那次事故给他留下了永久的伤疤。
• The ship is now permanently moored on the Thames in London.该船现在永久地停泊在伦敦泰晤士河边。

21 negotiations   

协商( negotiation的名词复数 )； 谈判； 完成（难事）； 通过

参考例句：

• negotiations for a durable peace 为持久和平而进行的谈判
• Negotiations have failed to establish any middle ground. 谈判未能达成任何妥协。

22 solitary   

adj.孤独的，独立的，荒凉的；n.隐士

参考例句：

• I am rather fond of a solitary stroll in the country.我颇喜欢在乡间独自徜徉。
• The castle rises in solitary splendour on the fringe of the desert.这座城堡巍然耸立在沙漠的边际，显得十分壮美。

23 high-tech   

adj.高科技的

参考例句：

• The economy is in the upswing which makes high-tech services in more demand too.经济在蓬勃发展，这就使对高科技服务的需求量也在加大。
• The quest of a cure for disease with high-tech has never ceased. 人们希望运用高科技治疗疾病的追求从未停止过。

24 spoke   

n.（车轮的）辐条；轮辐；破坏某人的计划；阻挠某人的行动 v.讲，谈（speak的过去式）；说；演说；从某种观点来说

参考例句：

• They sourced the spoke nuts from our company.他们的轮辐螺帽是从我们公司获得的。
• The spokes of a wheel are the bars that connect the outer ring to the centre.辐条是轮子上连接外圈与中心的条棒。

25 eloquently   

adv. 雄辩地(有口才地, 富于表情地)

参考例句：

• I was toasted by him most eloquently at the dinner. 进餐时他口若悬河地向我祝酒。
• The poet eloquently expresses the sense of lost innocence. 诗人动人地表达了失去天真的感觉。

26 unified   

(unify 的过去式和过去分词)； 统一的； 统一标准的； 一元化的

参考例句：

• The teacher unified the answer of her pupil with hers. 老师核对了学生的答案。
• The First Emperor of Qin unified China in 221 B.C. 秦始皇于公元前221年统一中国。

27 electorate   

n.全体选民；选区

参考例句：

• The government was responsible to the electorate.政府对全体选民负责。
• He has the backing of almost a quarter of the electorate.他得到了几乎1/4选民的支持。

28 deported   

v.将…驱逐出境( deport的过去式和过去分词 )；举止

参考例句：

• They stripped me of my citizenship and deported me. 他们剥夺我的公民资格，将我驱逐出境。 来自《简明英汉词典》
• The convicts were deported to a deserted island. 罪犯们被流放到一个荒岛。 来自《简明英汉词典》

29 piecemeal   

adj.零碎的；n.片，块；adv.逐渐地；v.弄成碎块

参考例句：

• A lack of narrative drive leaves the reader with piecemeal vignettes.叙述缺乏吸引力，读者读到的只是一些支离破碎的片段。
• Let's settle the matter at one stroke,not piecemeal.把这事一气儿解决了吧，别零敲碎打了。

30 uncertainty   

n.易变，靠不住，不确知，不确定的事物

参考例句：

• Her comments will add to the uncertainty of the situation.她的批评将会使局势更加不稳定。
• After six weeks of uncertainty,the strain was beginning to take its toll.6个星期的忐忑不安后，压力开始产生影响了。

31 fulfill   

vt.履行，实现，完成；满足，使满意

参考例句：

• If you make a promise you should fulfill it.如果你许诺了，你就要履行你的诺言。
• This company should be able to fulfill our requirements.这家公司应该能够满足我们的要求。