PBS高端访谈:媒体爆料特朗普曾要求科米停止调查弗林

 　　JOHN YANG: We begin tonight with a report that President Trump¹ urged then-FBI Director James Comey to drop the investigation² of one of his campaign aides' connections to Russia.

　　The New York Times reports that, at a February meeting, Mr. Trump told Comey, "I hope you can let this go."

　　It came the day after the president fired National Security Adviser³ Michael Flynn for lying about his contacts with the Russians. The president fired Comey last week. In response, the White House says that the report is "not a truthful⁴ or accurate portrayal⁵ of the conversation" and that the president never asked anyone to end any investigation.

　　For more, we turn now to Matt Apuzzo of The Times.

　　Matt, thanks for joining us.

　　Tell me what the significance of this memo⁶ is.

　　MATT APUZZO, The New York Times: Well, the significance of the memo, of course, is just not — you know, just last week, the president fired Jim Comey, the FBI director, and the stories kept changing.

　　And one of the back-and-forths has been, there was this conversation between Comey and the president in which the president said, "I want your loyalty⁷." And Comey wouldn't give him his loyalty. And then the question became, well, is that why he got fired?

　　And you will remember that the president tweeted out, oh, Jim Comey better hope there's not tapes of our conversations. Well, it turns out Jim Comey was keeping memos⁸ and was keeping contemporaneous notes on every interaction he had with the president and was becoming very concerned about some of those interactions and sought to document those going forward.

　　媒体爆料特朗普曾要求科米停止调查弗林

　　JOHN YANG: And he showed these to colleagues at the time, right?

　　MATT APUZZO: He showed them to colleagues. He provided them with copies.

　　And, you know, my colleague Mike Schmidt, who was the primary reporter on this story, talked to people who had seen the memos. That quote you read was read to us. This is — this is something — this is a real — this is a real dramatic turn in this story about, why did Donald Trump fire Jim Comey, and what is Donald Trump attempting to do in terms of influencing the investigation into his campaign and his associates?

　　JOHN YANG: Matt, tell us more about the specific meeting that you wrote — that is written about The Times, just the story that was posted just a little bit OK?

　　MATT APUZZO: Yes, we know it's a February 14 meeting, a private meting⁹ between the president and the FBI director, Jim Comey.

　　And, in it, the president mentions how concerned he is about leaks and actually makes this remark that, maybe we need to throw a couple of reporters in jail anyone to sort of send a message.

　　And then they — the president brings up Michael Flynn and says, look, I think he's a really good guy. And if you can see your way clear about it, just let this go. Let Michael Flynn go. He's a good man.

　　Now, Comey went back, apparently¹⁰, and documented that conversation. And one thing that's interesting about Comey is, 10 years ago, Comey was at the center of another major issue where he described this dramatic showdown with the Bush administration over warrantless wiretapping. And the White House denied that conversation.

　　And it turned out that it was the FBI director at the time, Bob Mueller, kept his contemporaneous notes, and that backed up Comey's account. So, in a lot of ways, this is what's old is new again. The FBI director was keeping contemporaneous notes on his conversations with the president.

　　JOHN YANG: And not just this conversation, Matt. Do we think he kept these notes throughout his conversations with the president?

　　MATT APUZZO: Our understanding is, he documented every interaction, every meeting and every phone call with the president and, on a number of occasions, expressed concerns about the about the emerging relationship between the White House and the FBI director.

　　Remember, the FBI director is normally kind of an arms-length relationship with the White House for precisely¹¹ this reason, because, sometimes, you know, the FBI can be investigating things that are politically problematic for the White House.

　　JOHN YANG: Matt Apuzzo, as you say, this could be a dramatic turning point in this relationship and what is going on between the two men, between President Trump and James Comey.

　　Thanks for joining us.

　　MATT APUZZO: Great to be here. Thanks so much.

1 trump   

n.王牌，法宝；v.打出王牌，吹喇叭

参考例句：

• He was never able to trump up the courage to have a showdown.他始终鼓不起勇气摊牌。
• The coach saved his star player for a trump card.教练保留他的明星选手，作为他的王牌。

2 investigation   

n.调查，调查研究

参考例句：

• In an investigation,a new fact became known, which told against him.在调查中新发现了一件对他不利的事实。
• He drew the conclusion by building on his own investigation.他根据自己的调查研究作出结论。

3 adviser   

n.劝告者，顾问

参考例句：

• They employed me as an adviser.他们聘请我当顾问。
• Our department has engaged a foreign teacher as phonetic adviser.我们系已经聘请了一位外籍老师作为语音顾问。

4 truthful   

adj.真实的，说实话的，诚实的

参考例句：

• You can count on him for a truthful report of the accident.你放心，他会对事故作出如实的报告的。
• I don't think you are being entirely truthful.我认为你并没全讲真话。

5 portrayal   

n.饰演；描画

参考例句：

• His novel is a vivid portrayal of life in a mining community.他的小说生动地描绘了矿区的生活。
• The portrayal of the characters in the novel is lifelike.该书中的人物写得有血有肉。

6 memo   

n.照会，备忘录；便笺；通知书；规章

参考例句：

• Do you want me to send the memo out?您要我把这份备忘录分发出去吗？
• Can you type a memo for me?您能帮我打一份备忘录吗？

7 loyalty   

n.忠诚，忠心

参考例句：

• She told him the truth from a sense of loyalty.她告诉他真相是出于忠诚。
• His loyalty to his friends was never in doubt.他对朋友的一片忠心从来没受到怀疑。

8 memos   

n.备忘录( memo的名词复数 )；（美）内部通知

参考例句：

• Big shots get their dander up and memos start flying. 大人物们怒火中烧，备忘录四下乱飞。 来自辞典例句
• There was a pile of mail, memos and telephone messages on his desk. 他的办公桌上堆满着信件、备忘录和电话通知。 来自辞典例句

9 meting   

v.（对某人）施以，给予（处罚等）( mete的现在分词 )

参考例句：

• The manager was strict and fair in meting out rewards and punishments. 经理赏罚严明。 来自互联网
• Doris Crockford. Mr. Potter. I can't believe I'm meting you at last. 我叫桃瑞丝。韦斯莱。波特先生。我真不敢相信，总算见到您了。 来自互联网

10 apparently   

adv.显然地；表面上，似乎

参考例句：

• An apparently blind alley leads suddenly into an open space.山穷水尽，豁然开朗。
• He was apparently much surprised at the news.他对那个消息显然感到十分惊异。

11 precisely   

adv.恰好，正好，精确地，细致地

参考例句：

• It's precisely that sort of slick sales-talk that I mistrust.我不相信的正是那种油腔滑调的推销宣传。
• The man adjusted very precisely.那个人调得很准。