PBS高端访谈:她的丈夫是IS战士

JUDY WOODRUFF: And now to a story from the war in Syria against ISIS. Our PBS colleagues at "Frontline," in partnership¹ with the BBC, have been following the story of an American woman, Sam El Hassani, who lived with her children in the ISIS capital, Raqqa. Filmmaker Josh Baker² has this first interview with Sam El Hassani, who is being held with her children by Kurdish forces in Northern Syria. The family's situation raises a new the question: What should the U.S. government do with American citizens to travel to the Islamic State?

JOSH BAKER: This is Sam El Hassani's husband, Mousse, before he took his wife, Sam, and her children from Indiana to join ISIS.

SAM EL HASSANI, Wife of ISIS Fighter: For five years, we had a great life. We worked together. We did everything together. He was very relaxed. OK, get off. Give Moussa big hug and tell him, thank you so much.

CHILD: Thank you so much.

Moussa: You're welcome, buddy³.

SAM EL HASSANI: About a year after we met each other, we got married. He bought me nice things. I drove a BMW. He drove a Porsche. He wore nice clothes, took very good care of himself. He was really good at kind of giving me attention and giving the kids attention. He was really good at it. There is not one dollar he wouldn't spend on us. After a while, he became bored of his life, I think.

JOSH BAKER: Sam says that drove her husband to take the family to Turkey in 2015. He said it was a vacation, but she says he then forced her and the children over the border to join ISIS.

SAM EL HASSANI: From there, we ended up in Raqqa.

JOSH BAKER: Do you think that there's anything you could have done more to protect the kids? Do you think there's a point where you could have escaped?

SAM EL HASSANI: But you have to understand I was afraid for our lives.

JOSH BAKER: While in Raqqa, Sam's son Matthew appeared in an ISIS propaganda⁴ video.

JOSH BAKER: A lot of people will look at that video, and they will see Matthew as a threat to Americans.

SAM EL HASSANI: Yes.

JOSH BAKER: They will see a kid that knows how to use weapons, apparently⁵, that maybe knows how to use a bomb.

SAM EL HASSANI: That's the way it's meant to look. It's propaganda. But how can you convince somebody that sees something like that? I don't know.

JOSH BAKER: Who is Matthew?

SAM EL HASSANI: He is my son, and he is my best friend.

JOSH BAKER: And what's he like?

SAM EL HASSANI: He plays marbles. And I bought him a soccer ball the other day. He kicked it outside the fence. He goes up to the security guys. He talks so politely. He says, "Can you go get my ball for me, please?"

JOSH BAKER: Her husband, Mousse, became an ISIS fighter. He was killed Raqqa to U.S.-backed Kurdish forces last fall. Now Sam says she wants to stay in Syria.

SAM EL HASSANI: What's going to happen whenever they go back to the U.S.? Will the government try to take my kids away from me, when I have done nothing but try to protect them, when here they give them school, they give them food, they give them everything? I will go there, I'm broke. I have nothing.

JOSH BAKER: Sam's sister, Lori, in Indiana says she is trying to get the U.S. government to intervene⁶ and bring Sam and her children back home. She says her sister deserves some blame, but doesn't think her children should suffer any further.

LORI, Sister of Sam El Hassani: There should be some sort of structure. There should be a plan to help families get out of Syria. I mean, should people be punished for going to Syria and doing what they're doing? Absolutely. But should we abandon them over there? No. I am hopeful that they will be able to come home. I am aware that Sam will most likely go to prison, but, eventually, after rehabilitation⁷, I'm hoping the kids will come here and live with me. There's a sense of urgency from the United States government to infiltrate⁸ and get the information they want. There is not a sense of urgency to save any Americans in Syria.

JOSH BAKER: Both the FBI and the State Department declined⁹ to comment on the family's story. For the "PBS NewsHour," reporting with "Frontline" and the BBC, I'm Josh Baker.

JUDY WOODRUFF: "Frontline" and the BBC will continue to follow this family's story for an upcoming documentary¹⁰.

1 partnership   

n.合作关系，伙伴关系

参考例句：

• The company has gone into partnership with Swiss Bank Corporation.这家公司已经和瑞士银行公司建立合作关系。
• Martin has taken him into general partnership in his company.马丁已让他成为公司的普通合伙人。

2 baker   

n.面包师

参考例句：

• The baker bakes his bread in the bakery.面包师在面包房内烤面包。
• The baker frosted the cake with a mixture of sugar and whites of eggs.面包师在蛋糕上撒了一层白糖和蛋清的混合料。

3 buddy   

n.（美口）密友，伙伴

参考例句：

• Calm down,buddy.What's the trouble?压压气，老兄。有什么麻烦吗？
• Get out of my way,buddy!别挡道了，你这家伙！

4 propaganda   

n.宣传，宣传机构

参考例句：

• A lot of propaganda has painted him as bad.大量宣传把他说得很坏。
• Art may be used as a vehicle for propaganda.艺术可以用作为宣传的媒介。

5 apparently   

adv.显然地；表面上，似乎

参考例句：

• An apparently blind alley leads suddenly into an open space.山穷水尽，豁然开朗。
• He was apparently much surprised at the news.他对那个消息显然感到十分惊异。

6 intervene   

vi.干涉，干预，干扰，阻挠

参考例句：

• When riot broke out,the police were obliged to intervene.发生暴乱时，警察有责任干预。
• You don't intervene between those two drunks.你不要在那两个酒鬼之间进行调解。

7 rehabilitation   

n.康复，悔过自新，修复，复兴，复职，复位

参考例句：

• He's booked himself into a rehabilitation clinic.他自己联系了一家康复诊所。
• No one can really make me rehabilitation of injuries.已经没有人可以真正令我的伤康复了。

8 infiltrate   

vt./vi.渗入，透过；浸润

参考例句：

• The teacher tried to infiltrate her ideas into the children's minds.老师设法把她的思想渗透到孩子们的心中。
• It can infiltrate as much as 100 kilometers into enemy territory at night.可以在夜间深入敌领土100千米。

9 declined   

v.辞谢，谢绝（邀请等）( decline的过去式和过去分词 )；（道路、物体等）下倾；（太阳）落下；（在品格、价值上）降低

参考例句：

• We asked her to come to our party, but she declined. 我们请她来参加我们的晚会，但是她谢绝了。 来自《简明英汉词典》
• He declined to charge his memory with so many details. 他不愿在脑中记这么多细枝末节。 来自《简明英汉词典》

10 documentary   

adj.文献的；n.纪录片

参考例句：

• This case lacked documentary proof.本案缺少书面证据。
• I watched a documentary on the Civil War.我看了一部关于内战的纪录片。