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PBS高端访谈:希拉里参加总统竞选:我们没有真的了解这个女人?

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   GWEN IFILL: Now joining me for analysis this Politics Monday, Amy Walter of The Cook Political Report and Tamara Keith of NPR, who is in Iowa tonight, waiting, waiting, waiting on Hillary Clinton.

  Tamara, let's start by talking about Senator Clinton, Secretary Clinton, Mrs. Clinton. What is the goal for her rollout, this very interesting kind of Web-driven rollout?
  TAMARA KEITH, NPR: Well, first she did the Web video. She's now on a van tour of America, making her way out.
  We would note that she is probably not driving. The Secret Service is most likely driving. She says she hasn't driven since 1996. But what she's trying to do is say, hey, I'm just like the rest of you. I'm relatable. I'm trying hard, I'm going to work for every single vote.
  Her campaign is aiming to go small at first, small events, intimate settings, no big arenas1, no big, cheering rounds, but just sort of Hillary Clinton unplugged, at least initially2, much like her listening tour in New York when she first ran for Senate there.
  GWEN IFILL: Amy, let's talk about what you think she was trying to accomplish with this very — it wasn't as warm and fuzzy as four years — as the 2008 video, but it was still very much — very little about her and a lot about other people.
  AMY WALTER, The Cook Political Report: And that's exactly the point, was she wants to make sure and make very clear that she doesn't see this as her legacy3 or her birthright or something that she's going to get handed.
  Her campaign talks a lot about earning the vote, about how she's going to work to meet people. It was telling that the first part of this video was all other people talking about her lives. We didn't hear anything about Hillary Clinton's life.
  Now, she is going to…
  GWEN IFILL: We know a lot about Hillary Clinton.
  AMY WALTER: We know a lot about Hillary Clinton's life.
  And we're going to hear a different perspective on her life. Her campaign likes to tell you she's the most famous person that nobody really knows. I have a hard time believing that to be true, but they're going to try to reimagine Hillary Clinton.
  GWEN IFILL: Well, let's talk about how the Republicans will imagine her. And we saw an explosion of Web responses this weekend, if you can call three or four an explosion.
  And one of them came from Rand Paul, the senator who announced last week that he is running for president. Let's take a little — a little bit of that ad that he posted right after Hillary Clinton announced.
  NARRATOR: Hillary Clinton represents the worst of the Washington machine arrogance5, the arrogance of power, corruption6 and cover-up, conflicts of interest and failed leadership with tragic7 consequences. The Washington machine is destroying the American treatment.
  GWEN IFILL: Well, Tamara, there's the flip8 side of the argument about the new Hillary Clinton. And what Rand Paul is trying to say and what a lot of the Republicans have tried to say is, there's an old Hillary Clinton we want to remind you about.
  TAMARA KEITH: Absolutely.
  And I think there are many American voters who have sort of a visceral reaction to Hillary Clinton that goes back to the '90s. And what Rand Paul, what the RNC with ads, they're doing, what they're trying to remind everyone of is, you know, this is the — remember the old Hillary Clinton? Remember the one maybe that you didn't like as much?
  They're trying to remind voters of that Hillary Clinton. And Rand Paul has promised he's going to run against her. And he's out of the gate running against her.
  GWEN IFILL: Go ahead.
  AMY WALTER: Well, I thought it was also interesting in the piece beforehand looking at Jeb Bush and Ted4 Cruz and some of the other Republican candidates. It's clear what they want to make this race about too, which is foreign policy.
  Secretary of State Hillary Clinton came into this election — comes into this election, actually, as the best prepared on foreign policy of anybody in the field.
  GWEN IFILL: Not a mention of it in that video.
  AMY WALTER: And she didn't mention of — it at all.
  There's something to be said about the fact that she also stands in the shadow of a president and his handling of foreign policy, which right now is, most Americans, a majority of Americans now say that they think he's not doing a particularly good job. She also obviously has some of her own controversies9 as secretary of state.
  The economy, meanwhile, doing a little bit better, and she's hoping to keep the focus on that.
  GWEN IFILL: As we sit here East Coast time, Marco Rubio, senator — freshman10 senator from Florida, is announcing he's running for president. He told donors11 about it earlier today. He's been saying, watch, watch what's coming for several days now.
  Let's hear a little bit of what he said just a few moments ago.
  SEN. MARCO RUBIO: Now, look, at the turn of the 19th century, a generation of Americans harnessed the power of the Industrial Age and they transformed this country into the leading economy in the world, and the 20th century became the American century.
  Well, now the time has come for our generation to lead the way towards a new American century.
  GWEN IFILL: Tamara, there were a lot of code words there, our generation, new, youth. He was clearly emphasizing how distinctly different he is from everybody else who is in the race so far.
  TAMARA KEITH: Yes.
  I mean, he's not just talking about Hillary Clinton there. He's also talking about Jeb Bush, his mentor12, his political mentor. He's not coming out and saying, no more boomer presidents, but that seems to be what he's implying.
  His other message is really — that he's — Marco Rubio is telling his story as an American story. And I have seen the remarks. Towards the — the prepared remarks. And towards the end, he says, you know, the son of a bartender and a maid could make it in America and he wants people to be able to live that American dream again.
  So he's in some ways very similar to President Obama, making his personal story an American story and selling himself that way.
  GWEN IFILL: So, Amy, to the degree that Hillary does not want to make this biographical yet, that's what Marco Rubio is really trading on at this point.
  AMY WALTER: Right. He's young. He's charismatic. He's the parent of immigrants.
  GWEN IFILL: Child of.
  AMY WALTER: Child of. Sorry. Child of immigrants.
  He's non-white. He's a first-term senator. Does any of this sound familiar?
  AMY WALTER: And that's going to, I think, be one of the challenges for Marco Rubio going forward within his own party and without, which is the sense of, boy, we tried that one time. We had a young, charismatic person come in talking about change. We don't feel really good about where things are headed now. Do we want to take another chance on another young person?
  So, his challenge is going to be to show how different he is from Barack Obama, even though he shares a similar biography.
  GWEN IFILL: Tamara, I know you're in Iowa tonight waiting for Hillary Clinton to arrive. She was spotted13 at a Chipotle in Ohio on her way in her van. Everyone's waited with bated breath.
  But I wonder, have other Democrats14 been there already? Is there other activity on the ground in Iowa beyond Hillary Clinton's anticipated arrival?
  TAMARA KEITH: Yes.
  So, Virginia — former Virginia senator Jim Webb, former Maryland Governor Martin O'Malley, they have both been here in recent days. They have been going to events.
  They have been well-received, though one activist15 here told me that they have been going to events that were already happening. They haven't been throwing their own events. And they're saying that a real test will be how many people show up when Martin O'Malley or Jim Webb has a stand-alone event.
  And so it's not really clear how well they're actually performing here, whether they're getting any traction16. And, obviously, Hillary Clinton coming to town is going to change the dynamic significantly.
  GWEN IFILL: Amy, how much of this getting out now, getting out front now — and we bring it up every week — is about money and trying to position yourself with the donors, who Marco Rubio called first, for instance, today?
  AMY WALTER: I think that was a very important point.
  And especially for the lesser-known candidates, it's telling that it's Ted Cruz and Rand Paul that have announced. It's not Jeb Bush, who — he can take his — a little more time in announcing.
  But we're also in an era where we find that individual fund-raising, while it's still important, is not the end-all be-all that it used to be. The fact that even Ted Cruz now has a super PAC set up apart from his campaign that is pledging $31 million says that, you know, when you get into a race and how much money you are going to raise before the summer is not always going to be definitive17 — is not as definitive as it once was.
  GWEN IFILL: Who is up next? We have got — once a week.
  AMY WALTER: I have also heard — we should.
  Who is going to be next? I don't know. Ben Carson, I think, is also going to be coming up soon enough in Detroit, I think, in early May. But we will probably hear a couple others before…
  GWEN IFILL: We will talk about it all next week on Politics Monday.
  Hey, Tamara, if I were you, I would go to a coffee shop, a Chipotle or a diner tonight if you're looking for Senator Clinton.
  GWEN IFILL: Thanks a lot.
  TAMARA KEITH: Gas stations. I'm headed…
  GWEN IFILL: Gas stations. Thank you.
  You can follow the 2016 race with us online, where you will find guides to each of the candidates as they enter the fray18. That's on our home page, PBS.org/NewsHour.

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1 arenas 199b9126e4f57770e1c427caf458ae03     
表演场地( arena的名词复数 ); 竞技场; 活动或斗争的场所或场面; 圆形运动场
参考例句:
  • Demolition derbies are large-scale automobile rodeos that take place in big arenas. 撞车比赛指的是在很大的竞技场上举行的大型汽车驾驶技术表演。
  • Are there areas of privacy in the most public of arenas? 在绝大部分公开的场合中存在需要保护隐私的领域吗?
2 initially 273xZ     
adv.最初,开始
参考例句:
  • The ban was initially opposed by the US.这一禁令首先遭到美国的反对。
  • Feathers initially developed from insect scales.羽毛最初由昆虫的翅瓣演化而来。
3 legacy 59YzD     
n.遗产,遗赠;先人(或过去)留下的东西
参考例句:
  • They are the most precious cultural legacy our forefathers left.它们是我们祖先留下来的最宝贵的文化遗产。
  • He thinks the legacy is a gift from the Gods.他认为这笔遗产是天赐之物。
4 ted 9gazhs     
vt.翻晒,撒,撒开
参考例句:
  • The invaders gut ted the village.侵略者把村中财物洗劫一空。
  • She often teds the corn when it's sunny.天好的时候她就翻晒玉米。
5 arrogance pNpyD     
n.傲慢,自大
参考例句:
  • His arrogance comes out in every speech he makes.他每次讲话都表现得骄傲自大。
  • Arrogance arrested his progress.骄傲阻碍了他的进步。
6 corruption TzCxn     
n.腐败,堕落,贪污
参考例句:
  • The people asked the government to hit out against corruption and theft.人民要求政府严惩贪污盗窃。
  • The old man reviled against corruption.那老人痛斥了贪污舞弊。
7 tragic inaw2     
adj.悲剧的,悲剧性的,悲惨的
参考例句:
  • The effect of the pollution on the beaches is absolutely tragic.污染海滩后果可悲。
  • Charles was a man doomed to tragic issues.查理是个注定不得善终的人。
8 flip Vjwx6     
vt.快速翻动;轻抛;轻拍;n.轻抛;adj.轻浮的
参考例句:
  • I had a quick flip through the book and it looked very interesting.我很快翻阅了一下那本书,看来似乎很有趣。
  • Let's flip a coin to see who pays the bill.咱们来抛硬币决定谁付钱。
9 controversies 31fd3392f2183396a23567b5207d930c     
争论
参考例句:
  • We offer no comment on these controversies here. 对于这些争议,我们在这里不作任何评论。 来自英汉非文学 - 历史
  • The controversies surrounding population growth are unlikely to subside soon. 围绕着人口增长问题的争论看来不会很快平息。 来自辞典例句
10 freshman 1siz9r     
n.大学一年级学生(可兼指男女)
参考例句:
  • Jack decided to live in during his freshman year at college.杰克决定大一时住校。
  • He is a freshman in the show business.他在演艺界是一名新手。
11 donors 89b49c2bd44d6d6906d17dca7315044b     
n.捐赠者( donor的名词复数 );献血者;捐血者;器官捐献者
参考例句:
  • Please email us to be removed from our active list of blood donors. 假如你想把自己的名字从献血联系人名单中删去,请给我们发电子邮件。
  • About half this amount comes from individual donors and bequests. 这笔钱大约有一半来自个人捐赠及遗赠。 来自《简明英汉词典》
12 mentor s78z0     
n.指导者,良师益友;v.指导
参考例句:
  • He fed on the great ideas of his mentor.他以他导师的伟大思想为支撑。
  • He had mentored scores of younger doctors.他指导过许多更年轻的医生。
13 spotted 7FEyj     
adj.有斑点的,斑纹的,弄污了的
参考例句:
  • The milkman selected the spotted cows,from among a herd of two hundred.牛奶商从一群200头牛中选出有斑点的牛。
  • Sam's shop stocks short spotted socks.山姆的商店屯积了有斑点的短袜。
14 democrats 655beefefdcaf76097d489a3ff245f76     
n.民主主义者,民主人士( democrat的名词复数 )
参考例句:
  • The Democrats held a pep rally on Capitol Hill yesterday. 民主党昨天在国会山召开了竞选誓师大会。
  • The democrats organize a filibuster in the senate. 民主党党员组织了阻挠议事。 来自《简明英汉词典》
15 activist gyAzO     
n.活动分子,积极分子
参考例句:
  • He's been a trade union activist for many years.多年来他一直是工会的积极分子。
  • He is a social activist in our factory.他是我厂的社会活动积极分子。
16 traction kJXz3     
n.牵引;附着摩擦力
参考例句:
  • I'll show you how the traction is applied.我会让你看如何做这种牵引。
  • She's injured her back and is in traction for a month.她背部受伤,正在作一个月的牵引治疗。
17 definitive YxSxF     
adj.确切的,权威性的;最后的,决定性的
参考例句:
  • This book is the definitive guide to world cuisine.这本书是世界美食的权威指南。
  • No one has come up with a definitive answer as to why this should be so.至于为什么该这样,还没有人给出明确的答复。
18 fray NfDzp     
v.争吵;打斗;磨损,磨破;n.吵架;打斗
参考例句:
  • Why should you get involved in their fray?你为什么要介入他们的争吵呢?
  • Tempers began to fray in the hot weather.大热天脾气烦燥。
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